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19-11-2014, 04:38 PM
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(19-11-2014 12:50 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Just like people who are anti-fur, or anti caged chickens etc. They create pamphlets, go to the streets and try and educate people. Get TV documentaries created etc.
There are other ways to try and convince people rather than to force them.

Exactly. I started thinking about it in terms of what Vegans usually do. Rather than ban animal products they try to educate people on all the reasons for going vegan. This logic can apply to any subject including why I am against abortion.

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19-11-2014, 04:47 PM
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(19-11-2014 02:24 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(19-11-2014 09:10 AM)chandlerklebs Wrote:  The same reason I would care about any other life, including mine or yours. It only happens once.

You seem to particularly care about this one hot button topic though. What about the lives that are shit lives, that are lived all over the world everywhere? Why does *abortion* get your interest over that - you are allowed to say "no particular reason" - that is perfectly valid.

Personally I think aborting lil' kiddie-poos is a very rational thing to do...

The subject of abortion is actually the reason I left Christianity. It showed me that their religion is full of crap. That is part of why it is still something I think about so much.

But the lives of born humans and non-human animals are important just as much. I want to make the world less shitty before I die. One that is worth being born into at all.

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19-11-2014, 05:09 PM
RE: What is Your Thinking On Abortion ?
(19-11-2014 04:47 PM)chandlerklebs Wrote:  
(19-11-2014 02:24 PM)morondog Wrote:  You seem to particularly care about this one hot button topic though. What about the lives that are shit lives, that are lived all over the world everywhere? Why does *abortion* get your interest over that - you are allowed to say "no particular reason" - that is perfectly valid.

Personally I think aborting lil' kiddie-poos is a very rational thing to do...

The subject of abortion is actually the reason I left Christianity. It showed me that their religion is full of crap. That is part of why it is still something I think about so much.

But the lives of born humans and non-human animals are important just as much. I want to make the world less shitty before I die. One that is worth being born into at all.

First step to making the world less shitty: do not force, coerce, pressure, or even ask women to have children they do not want and cannot afford. Step 2: educate as many people as possible, give them the knowledge and resources needed to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Step 3: encourage people not to have children unless they are well educated, financially stable, and prepared to be good parents.

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20-11-2014, 03:07 AM
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It should be an available, anonymous choice for every sexually active female.
What we should be discussing is getting rid of the need for abortions through proper sex education programs and greater access to contraception
Full disclaimer : about 20 years ago my then girlfriend had an abortion, something I am not proud of but I also do not regret

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20-11-2014, 06:15 AM
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I think some people are never too old to be aborted. Tongue

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21-11-2014, 09:22 AM
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(20-11-2014 06:15 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  I think some people are never too old to be aborted. Tongue
I represent that ( or maybe resent it HEH HEH) I'm 85

Actually, to the OP, I happen to think that under some circumstances abortion is ok, up to 16 weeks, or longer with ample reason.

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21-11-2014, 09:44 AM
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I believe in someone's right to choose, even an action I wouldn't personally engage in myself. I'm pro-choice, not pro-abortion. As much as it might sadden me that someone would need to take this path, I'm even more afraid of a society where the government is empowered to make that decision for the citizen.
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21-11-2014, 12:25 PM
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On the subject of abortion. I happen to disapprove of abortion ----Most of the time< but somtimes I think it is appropriate. This is long-winded because I have put a great deal of thought into I.

1. If a woman or girl is raped, it was not her doing and thus she shouldn't have to bear the resulting offspring.( I do not necessarily include incess but obviously incestuous Sex can create unwanted physical deformities)

2. controverccial I realize, but if the partners had protected sex, indicating that she was not ready for childbirth,or the girl is lied to about protection, and gets pregnant, she should have abortion available to her.

(In either of the above cases, the decision must be by the woman because the donor was not -honest, or it was unintentional on the part of the woman).

3. If it is found that the fetus is unviable for medical reasons, or that the woman (girl) is physically unfit to become a mother --(maybe by age)In my opinion it would be an act of cruelty to continue the pregnancy (depending on the severity) This would of course involve the docter's imput.

4. Late birth abortions (mid-term) should only be allowed in the above cases ohnly when they are medically necessary, or if they are undiscovered within the first Trimester.

5 If the mother's life is at risk, and only, (repeat) ONLY if she can not withstand a “C” Section, should a Partial Birth Abortion be allowed. This proceedure only occures when the Fetus (now, and unborn baby) is sufficiently well developed to live on it's own outside of the mother's belly. (Even if the baby is severly deformed, it should be given the chance at life) and if the motherr can survive the “C” Section, that is the far better choice.

HOWEVER: While it is the woman's body, and for medical reasons, she must have her choice. There is an exception to the rule. TO WIT: If the couple had planned the prgnancy or did nothing to prevent it,(and the mother chnged her mind) then the father has a right to enter into the decison as well. (even more so if the woman planned to trick the father by nor being protected, ) the father should have a right to stop the abortion as he had no part in the original decision, and may want to keep the resulting child.(The pregnancy was literally an unwritten contract between the parties and she must abide by it.)

“ just MY OPINION “ -------- Your's????

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21-11-2014, 12:31 PM (This post was last modified: 21-11-2014 12:56 PM by Losty.)
RE: What is Your Thinking On Abortion ?
I think all abortion should be legal at any phase. My only exemption being that partial birth abortion should only be allowed when medically necessary. If you can push out the baby's head just push a little more and put the kid up for adoption. Otherwise, I think abortion should be unrestricted and the only person who should have any say is the pregnant female. If she is really young perhaps an unbiased 3rd party to help her know what her choice means, but the choice is ultimately hers.

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21-11-2014, 01:22 PM
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So I hope I won't be burned at the stake.

I honestly don't know what my thoughts are. Is that bad? I guess I need to do some more research to work through some things.
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