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29-11-2016, 03:32 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 03:14 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 03:01 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Why are you asking?

I'm scared of going to hell

Well the good news is that hell isn't real, so don't be scared Thumbsup

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29-11-2016, 03:35 PM
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Welcome to the forum!

The tower of Babel story can sort of be "disproven", since it asserts that humans were punished for building too high, getting too close to heaven or whatnot... but we actually know why languages are different/how they evolved (the supposed "punishment"), and we also know that we can go to space without being "punished"... so yeah, more bullshit.

There's absolutely no evidence for hell, if that makes you feel any better. Also, the Christian accounts of "hell" are largely based on nonsense developed AFTER the Bible. More bullshit. Read the wikipedia article on "hell" and you might notice that it's all just a bunch of mythology from a bunch of different cultures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
A lot of this stuff is conflicting too, so either only one of these accounts is correct (none of which are supported by any evidence), or they're all wrong, which is far more likely.

Is there something specific that is making you afraid of hell? Some sin perhaps that we can help convince you isn't really a sin, or is it simply a lack of belief that you're afraid of? If you're legitimately afraid of hell then it seems you are a believer?

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29-11-2016, 03:49 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 03:14 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 03:01 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Why are you asking?

I'm scared of going to hell

You get used to it.

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29-11-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 02:23 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  I mean what is the best evidence it's wrong

Most rational Christians would call it quits if you persuade them the resurrection didn't happen. There are stronger arguments than that. But they would be wasted on someone who was initially convinced by a fairy story. You have to attack the fairy story.

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29-11-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 03:35 PM)MustangManda Wrote:  Welcome to the forum!

The tower of Babel story can sort of be "disproven", since it asserts that humans were punished for building too high, getting too close to heaven or whatnot... but we actually know why languages are different/how they evolved (the supposed "punishment"), and we also know that we can go to space without being "punished"... so yeah, more bullshit.

There's absolutely no evidence for hell, if that makes you feel any better. Also, the Christian accounts of "hell" are largely based on nonsense developed AFTER the Bible. More bullshit. Read the wikipedia article on "hell" and you might notice that it's all just a bunch of mythology from a bunch of different cultures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
A lot of this stuff is conflicting too, so either only one of these accounts is correct (none of which are supported by any evidence), or they're all wrong, which is far more likely.

Is there something specific that is making you afraid of hell? Some sin perhaps that we can help convince you isn't really a sin, or is it simply a lack of belief that you're afraid of? If you're legitimately afraid of hell then it seems you are a believer?

The Tower of Babel is one of my favorite biblical myths to pick on.

Ask21771, click here, go to post 174.

There is a lot of things wrong with this, especially squaring the city building lists of Asher and Nimrod with what we know about these cities, they would have to be over 4000 years old to have built all of these cities!

The bible seriously goes off the rails when it tries to assert knowledge of ancient cities, the writers couldn't have possibly known how old these ancient cities were, they simply lacked the tools and the knowledge to even hazard a guess, which is exactly what they did in Genesis chapter 10.

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29-11-2016, 03:59 PM
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Is the empty tomb true
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29-11-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 03:59 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is the empty tomb true

What do you mean? Is it true that people have found tombs without people in them? Or are you asking if there is evidence that people went to Jesus' tomb 3 days after he was buried to find it empty?

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29-11-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 03:59 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is the empty tomb true

It's a metaphor for "I'm outta here, don't bother looking for me."

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29-11-2016, 04:03 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 04:00 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 03:59 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Is the empty tomb true

What do you mean? Is it true that people have found tombs without people in them? Or are you asking if there is evidence that people went to Jesus' tomb 3 days after he was buried to find it empty?

Is there evidence that the tomb of Jesus was empty
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29-11-2016, 04:06 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 04:03 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 04:00 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  What do you mean? Is it true that people have found tombs without people in them? Or are you asking if there is evidence that people went to Jesus' tomb 3 days after he was buried to find it empty?

Is there evidence that the tomb of Jesus was empty

I assume you mean contemporary since there is no tomb that has been found to be shown to be Jesus'.

How about this for an answer, there is no contemporary evidence for Jesus at all. Literally no one who met him or interacted with him left behind any evidence of him. For instance, Matthew 27:52 says that a bunch of dead saints walked through the streets of Jerusalem when Jesus rose from the dead, and there are exactly 0 pieces of evidence that anyone saw any zombies that day. So...just unverified claims. Drinking Beverage

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