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29-11-2016, 06:50 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 06:47 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Here's a list of all my questions

1. What makes you believe the bible is wrong

2. What actual proven historical and scientific evidence is there that it's not real

3. Why does the bible have no major contradictions

1) lack of evidence for its claims

2) the geologic record, fossil record, archaeological record, evolutionary relationships among organisms, etc

3) it does. It possess literally no evidence god is real. That's a pretty big contradiction. It also has no corroborating evidence for Jesus or the stories attributed to him. That's a pretty big contradiction.

How many different ways do you want to have these exact questions answered? Consider

You keep asking them, so there must be some sort of response you're expecting. What answer to these questions did you expect atheists to give you? (Especially those of us who are former believers)

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29-11-2016, 06:53 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 06:50 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 06:47 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Here's a list of all my questions

1. What makes you believe the bible is wrong

2. What actual proven historical and scientific evidence is there that it's not real

3. Why does the bible have no major contradictions

1) lack of evidence for its claims

2) the geologic record, fossil record, archaeological record, evolutionary relationships among organisms, etc

3) it does. It possess literally no evidence god is real. That's a pretty big contradiction. It also has no corroborating evidence for Jesus or the stories attributed to him. That's a pretty big contradiction.

How many different ways do you want to have these exact questions answered? Consider

You keep asking them, so there must be some sort of response you're expecting. What answer to these questions did you expect atheists to give you? (Especially those of us who are former believers)

A nice start would be some examples of major contradictions
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29-11-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 06:47 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  Here's a list of all my questions

1. What makes you believe the bible is wrong

Because the bible HAS been proven wrong.

Moses: Did not exist.
Genesis: did not happen. The earth was not created in six days.
Jericho: The city existed, the walls did not fall.
The Exodus: Absolutely did not happen. The Israelites were never slaves of the Egyptians.

THERE WAS NO FLOOD!

Shall I continue?

(29-11-2016 06:47 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  2. What actual proven historical and scientific evidence is there that it's not real

Our entire body of scientific evidence.

Astronomy, geology, medicine, chemistry, radiology, EVERYTHING.
Archeology, paleontology, linguistics, botany, biology, EVERYTHING.

(29-11-2016 06:47 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  3. Why does the bible have no major contradictions

Have you read the bible?

The Skeptics Annotated Bible lists 536 contradictions.

SAB: Contradictions

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29-11-2016, 06:57 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 06:53 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 06:50 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  1) lack of evidence for its claims

2) the geologic record, fossil record, archaeological record, evolutionary relationships among organisms, etc

3) it does. It possess literally no evidence god is real. That's a pretty big contradiction. It also has no corroborating evidence for Jesus or the stories attributed to him. That's a pretty big contradiction.

How many different ways do you want to have these exact questions answered? Consider

You keep asking them, so there must be some sort of response you're expecting. What answer to these questions did you expect atheists to give you? (Especially those of us who are former believers)

A nice start would be some examples of major contradictions

Lack of evidence for god or Jesus or stories attributed to Jesus.

The contradiction between science and the Bible's account of the origin of space, the earth, life, and humans.

Pretty significant contradiction for an omniscient being to get basic facts about reality wrong.

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29-11-2016, 06:58 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
What are you expecting to get out of this series of questions? Do you expect to get answers you'll accept or are you hoping to ask a "gotcha" question you think we can't answer?

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29-11-2016, 06:59 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 06:57 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 06:53 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  A nice start would be some examples of major contradictions

Lack of evidence for god or Jesus or stories attributed to Jesus.

The contradiction between science and the Bible's account of the origin of space, the earth, life, and humans.

Pretty significant contradiction for an omniscient being to get basic facts about reality wrong.

Those are not major contradictions in the bible
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29-11-2016, 07:01 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 06:59 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 06:57 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Lack of evidence for god or Jesus or stories attributed to Jesus.

The contradiction between science and the Bible's account of the origin of space, the earth, life, and humans.

Pretty significant contradiction for an omniscient being to get basic facts about reality wrong.

Those are not major contradictions in the bible

Did you not see my link? 536 Contradictions!

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29-11-2016, 07:03 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 06:59 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 06:57 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Lack of evidence for god or Jesus or stories attributed to Jesus.

The contradiction between science and the Bible's account of the origin of space, the earth, life, and humans.

Pretty significant contradiction for an omniscient being to get basic facts about reality wrong.

Those are not major contradictions in the bible

Those aren't what you consider to be major contradictions. Your subjective definition of "major" makes that question an exercise in shifting of the goalposts. Laughat

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29-11-2016, 07:04 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
Have you ever considered the possibility that the Bible is fiction/myth written by ignorant humans trying to make sense of the world in the same way that ignorant humans wrote literally every other myth?

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29-11-2016, 07:06 PM
RE: What is the best evidence against Christianity
(29-11-2016 05:25 PM)Ask21771 Wrote:  
(29-11-2016 05:16 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  No, he's asking what arguments and evidence for the Bible cause you to believe it? Or did you grow up in a culture that has a majority of people who believe it?

Mostly the resurrection of Jesus I just can't seem to find any good evidence it wasn't true, I mean even Bart Ehrman agrees that people had visions of Christ after his death

I'd like to see the evidence you have that proves it was true. We'll go from there.
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