What is the origin of The Devil?
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08-01-2014, 01:56 AM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
At the risk of being accused of plugging my book again, I have quite a bit of detail in the attached excerpt that explains the back-story on Satan in the Bible, which addresses the OP.


.pdf  Manifest Insanity - Origins of Satan.pdf (Size: 97.8 KB / Downloads: 39)

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08-01-2014, 02:53 AM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
(07-01-2014 08:05 PM)Sovby Wrote:  Where did the devil or satan come from? Is it borrowed from other cultures?

It came from God. Duh! Smartass

With a question like that I think there is considerable room for debate. Personally, I'd point my finger at Zoroastrianism's 'evil God', but I'm no religion scholar, and as with any possible answer given you can just remove the question one step further. If the Devil did come from Zoroastrianism, where did they get it? And so on and so forth.

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08-01-2014, 05:26 AM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
(07-01-2014 09:07 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(07-01-2014 08:05 PM)Sovby Wrote:  Where did the devil or satan come from? Is it borrowed from other cultures? When was the first time that something was referenced as satan or the devil? Some say that the serpent that tempted adam & eve was satan but where was the first time something called satan appeared? Was it in the new testament or does it appear somewhere in the old testament?

I don't remember off the top of my head, but it's quite possible that the first reference chronologically in the Bible to Satan is in Job.

I believe it would be:

1 Chronicles 21:1 KJV Wrote:And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

8000 years before Jesus, the Egyptian god Horus said, "I am the way, the truth, the life."
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08-01-2014, 05:35 AM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
You got me on that one. i realized after i posted this i should have just googled it. I do think its interesting how things change throughout time. The term Satan starts out as being the title of something & evolves into the guy with the pointed tail & carrying a pitchfork. Hmm evolution, have christians heard about this topic? LOL.
(07-01-2014 09:09 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(07-01-2014 08:05 PM)Sovby Wrote:  Where did the devil or satan come from? Is it borrowed from other cultures? When was the first time that something was referenced as satan or the devil? Some say that the serpent that tempted adam & eve was satan but where was the first time something called satan appeared? Was it in the new testament or does it appear somewhere in the old testament?


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08-01-2014, 09:45 AM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
(08-01-2014 05:35 AM)Sovby Wrote:  You got me on that one. i realized after i posted this i should have just googled it. I do think its interesting how things change throughout time. The term Satan starts out as being the title of something & evolves into the guy with the pointed tail & carrying a pitchfork. Hmm evolution, have christians heard about this topic? LOL.
(07-01-2014 09:09 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  I gotz Google. You don't gotz Google?BlinkThumbsupBlink


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I know it was smartass of me. BUT your research could well reveal far more than mine or someone else's. Good rule of thumb is to track down what you can then if that lends questions it can make for great forum fodder.

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08-01-2014, 03:13 PM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
(08-01-2014 05:26 AM)BlackMason Wrote:  
(07-01-2014 09:07 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  I don't remember off the top of my head, but it's quite possible that the first reference chronologically in the Bible to Satan is in Job.

I believe it would be:

1 Chronicles 21:1 KJV Wrote:And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

BlackMason,
Although Chronicles does appear in the Bible earlier than Job, Job is chronologically older and is accepted by most scholars as the oldest book in the Bible. Technically, RobbyPants is correct, but don't let him know that.
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08-01-2014, 03:47 PM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
"satan" simply means "opposer"....

To Christians, technically we are all satan Thumbsup

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08-01-2014, 06:50 PM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
Yeah. Read Elaine Pagles' book. It has some interesting information in it.
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08-01-2014, 06:59 PM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
(08-01-2014 03:13 PM)docskeptic Wrote:  BlackMason,
Although Chronicles does appear in the Bible earlier than Job, Job is chronologically older and is accepted by most scholars as the oldest book in the Bible. Technically, RobbyPants is correct, but don't let him know that.
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08-01-2014, 07:04 PM
RE: What is the origin of The Devil?
It's the same place god came from - people looking for a way to not be responsible for their actions and their consequences.

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