What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
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16-11-2013, 01:05 AM
RE: What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
(16-11-2013 12:35 AM)Chippy Wrote:  


The "soft" interview which is really just a promotional puff piece.

I don't have TV but I was in a hotel and saw one of these one night. They make it look like they are interviewing a scientist or doctor on some new scientific breakthrough but, it turns out to be some idiot pushing a book of "folk remedies" or something. They give a lot of scientific talk but they don't say much, then comes the pitch.

I was searching for something like NOVA and they wasted my time. Really pissed me off to realize I was actually watching a fucking infomercial! Undecided

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16-11-2013, 07:56 AM
What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
(16-11-2013 12:25 AM)nach_in Wrote:  
(16-11-2013 12:07 AM)I and I Wrote:  And what would rule 5 be? If I start a thread and people start talking shit to me, who is breaking the rules?

People tried over and over again to be civil and talk with you, but you never answer a question, you deflect every single time your ideas are challenged and you never, not even once, showed any intention of having an honest discussion about very sensitive topics.

Your threads are not meant to talk, are meant to stir people's feelings about important matters so you can poke at us and have a good laugh. You're a troll and an insensitive bastard who uses real people problems and suffering to annoy and provoke.

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16-11-2013, 09:38 AM
RE: What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
(16-11-2013 07:56 AM)I and I Wrote:  The fine line I am walking is called letting other people talk shit to me and not responding. Other people here have always talked shit to me first yet since the bullying group are all friends, their disruptive and malicious behavior is ignored.

Whine harder; your persecution complex is endearing.

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16-11-2013, 10:09 AM
RE: What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
And you're still an idiot.

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16-11-2013, 12:31 PM
RE: What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
So, I have a question to people that aren't I and I. I've seen mention of people saying that HIV doesn't lead to AIDS, which I've always found weird, but is this part of some other agenda? Does denying the connection offer them the ability to take some other stance?

To put that in persecutive, I've seen people that don't believe in gravity, which I found insane, but it later made sense when I realized they needed to do this to believe in a geocentric model of the solar system. Does denying that HIV leads to AIDS do something similar?
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16-11-2013, 12:37 PM
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(16-11-2013 12:31 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  I've seen people that don't believe in gravity, which I found insane, but it later made sense when I realized they needed to do this to believe in a geocentric model of the solar system. Does denying that HIV leads to AIDS do something similar?

Right now I can't think of anything on a larger scale, but I imagine it would be in someone's favor to spread this idea if they had a snake oil "cure" for AIDS. Is that what you're asking?

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16-11-2013, 02:04 PM
What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
(16-11-2013 12:37 PM)Cephalotus Wrote:  
(16-11-2013 12:31 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  I've seen people that don't believe in gravity, which I found insane, but it later made sense when I realized they needed to do this to believe in a geocentric model of the solar system. Does denying that HIV leads to AIDS do something similar?

Right now I can't think of anything on a larger scale, but I imagine it would be in someone's favor to spread this idea if they had a snake oil "cure" for AIDS. Is that what you're asking?

No, many people and scientists don't believe HIV causes aids. To people that do believe HIV causes aids, they seem to not understand that it is not a denial of the existence of aids.
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16-11-2013, 02:11 PM
RE: What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
(16-11-2013 12:31 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  So, I have a question to people that aren't I and I. I've seen mention of people saying that HIV doesn't lead to AIDS, which I've always found weird, but is this part of some other agenda? Does denying the connection offer them the ability to take some other stance?

To put that in persecutive, I've seen people that don't believe in gravity, which I found insane, but it later made sense when I realized they needed to do this to believe in a geocentric model of the solar system. Does denying that HIV leads to AIDS do something similar?

Because "HIV causes Aids" is what The Man says.

It is therefore wrong a priori.

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16-11-2013, 02:31 PM
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I guess. I just wondered if there was some weird biblical prophesy that HIV was wrecking, or something.
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16-11-2013, 03:25 PM
What is the scientific evidence for the existence of HIV?
(16-11-2013 02:31 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  I guess. I just wondered if there was some weird biblical prophesy that HIV was wrecking, or something.

I think a good portion of believers in woo suffer from acute Galileo Complex. There's still a (small) group of people out the who believe the earth is flat. Reading their explanations for the problems with this theory (e.g. Why does the earth appear spherical from space?) can be good for a laugh.

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