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13-12-2015, 07:56 PM
RE: What is your latest first world problem ?
(13-12-2015 07:51 PM)Aliza Wrote:  A secret rendezvous is not totally out of the question, though.

YES! I love the secret rendezvous option.

Also, not to nick pick, but I'm not Jewish as that would sort of conflict with the whole atheist thing.

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13-12-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: What is your latest first world problem ?
(13-12-2015 07:48 AM)jennybee Wrote:  
(13-12-2015 06:00 AM)yakherder Wrote:  I've been looking around the past year or so for that ideal "build a dream home" property. I think I found one. Almost completely wooded, but ideal for a spot to build a house. Cheap because the guy wants a quick sale. Next to a river, across the street from a lake. Phone and power hookup already available, one neighbor nearby, but absolutely nothing else. The area is absolutely perfect, like exactly what I envisioned in my imagination as I've been scouting out properties I'm gonna go check it out today (about two hours away), but unless I see something in complete contrast to my research of the site, I expect to buy it quick, as in down payment today and draw up the paperwork Monday, despite knowing I'm about to be laid off Tongue

The first world problem portion of the deal is that I'm about to create a lot of work in a location a bit of a distance from where I live. Expensive work. I'll need to clear some trees (I'm only permitted to clear %40, which is fine, I like trees and it's 1.7 acres total), put in a well, a water treatment system, a septic tank, and build everything from scratch. I'm gonna be a very busy man these next couple years. Hopefully I can find another rotational position like the one I'm being laid off from, otherwise finding time to work on the house will be quite difficult.

Sounds like an awesome place! From your other post, it sounds like you have a lot of job possibilities even though you are about to be laid off. (Sorry about your lay off, btw Undecided ). So it sounds like there's a good chance you could find something with a schedule that would allow you to devote a lot of time to your house/ property.

The property does sound like a lot of work, but if you are still planning on keeping your current house, you can take your time getting your new house ready. And you can always pay some people to help you once you get your new job.

Good luck with the house! I hope it works out for you. It definitely sounds like a nice place for you and your family!

First the additional first world BS portion of the deal. My girlfriend / common law and I will both be investing in this place in the coming years, and I don't expect our relationship to suddenly get better. But, worst case scenario, we eventually separate, she ends up with the property and whatever we've added to it, and my kids have an awesome place to explore as they grow up. I can live with that. And in the process of doing this I'll learn some lessons that will allow me to do it more efficiently the second time around. So even with this, I'll keep looking for other similar cheap undeveloped properties.

At any rate... I Didn't get to explore as much as I'd like because I had both of my kids with me, but I liked what I saw. I was worried because my first concern was why someone hadn't developed the place already. I assumed there had to be something prohibitively challenging about it that wasn't obvious from the pictures, the online description, and the various documentation I'd been able to dig up, and I wanted to find what that problem was. Turns out it's only because the government owned the whole area up until 3 years ago before sectioning it off and putting it on the market for private ownership. The guy who owned it those three years simply changed his mind about wanting to develop it due to money problems and wanted to make a quick sale. And it's perfect. So too bad for that guy, but a quick sale was what he wanted and he got it.

At this point it's almost completely wooded. It's a bit hilly, but there's a portion that's flat enough to build a small house with a bit of work. There's a small creek running along one side of the property feeding into a lake. That lake is about a 5 minute walk away, following the creek. From the property, there are hiking trails leading in like six different directions. There was bunny shit and deer shit all over the place and, unsurprisingly (given the bunnies) plenty of signs of coyotes as well. The only neighbor in the area to have put up a house at this point tells me wolves, black bears, and moose also show up from time to time.

Another cool thing, as viewed through the eyes of a prepper nutcase like myself, is that the flat area where I'd put the house is right next to a steep, fairly high hill (all part of the property), which leaves open the possibility of having a basement extend from under the house to under the hill a bit up into it as sort of a large hidden extra room. You know, like those bunkers or torture rooms they always have out in the boonies in crime shows Tongue That's just my imagination working overtime, however. I don't know if I could get it approved, and I do in fact plan on keeping everything legal Smile

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13-12-2015, 09:48 PM
RE: What is your latest first world problem ?
Hmm. Well, I'd shake the shit out of that relationship issue before I invested that kind of sweat equity and/or money into anything. Then again, one never knows how it will work out down the road. We'll be married 35 years next February. There were times when either one of us wanted to choke the other one, but we've lasted through it. I don't know if that just means we're both masochists or what.
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13-12-2015, 09:59 PM
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(13-12-2015 09:48 PM)Fireball Wrote:  Hmm. Well, I'd shake the shit out of that relationship issue before I invested that kind of sweat equity and/or money into anything. Then again, one never knows how it will work out down the road. We'll be married 35 years next February. There were times when either one of us wanted to choke the other one, but we've lasted through it. I don't know if that just means we're both masochists or what.

The thought crossed my mind. I despise drama. But as much as we don't get along romantically, we do get along practically. She's rational and I trust her completely. There's no hate between us. It's just not ideal for us to break up right now with a 1 year old and a four year old. It's also financially inconvenient. We're both starting to make good money, but we haven't invested a lot yet. The fact that we manage to keep our living expenses ridiculously low right now allows us to take advantage of opportunities just like this when, as singles without combined expenses, we'd have significantly less disposable income.

And however it ends up, I'd rather not let this opportunity pass. The place is just too perfect and too cheap. One of us will get our retirement dream home out of this, and either way the kids get a cool place to grow up in or vacation in when they're older.

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13-12-2015, 10:00 PM
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(13-12-2015 09:17 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(13-12-2015 07:48 AM)jennybee Wrote:  Sounds like an awesome place! From your other post, it sounds like you have a lot of job possibilities even though you are about to be laid off. (Sorry about your lay off, btw Undecided ). So it sounds like there's a good chance you could find something with a schedule that would allow you to devote a lot of time to your house/ property.

The property does sound like a lot of work, but if you are still planning on keeping your current house, you can take your time getting your new house ready. And you can always pay some people to help you once you get your new job.

Good luck with the house! I hope it works out for you. It definitely sounds like a nice place for you and your family!

First the additional first world BS portion of the deal. My girlfriend / common law and I will both be investing in this place in the coming years, and I don't expect our relationship to suddenly get better. But, worst case scenario, we eventually separate, she ends up with the property and whatever we've added to it, and my kids have an awesome place to explore as they grow up. I can live with that. And in the process of doing this I'll learn some lessons that will allow me to do it more efficiently the second time around. So even with this, I'll keep looking for other similar cheap undeveloped properties.

At any rate... I Didn't get to explore as much as I'd like because I had both of my kids with me, but I liked what I saw. I was worried because my first concern was why someone hadn't developed the place already. I assumed there had to be something prohibitively challenging about it that wasn't obvious from the pictures, the online description, and the various documentation I'd been able to dig up, and I wanted to find what that problem was. Turns out it's only because the government owned the whole area up until 3 years ago before sectioning it off and putting it on the market for private ownership. The guy who owned it those three years simply changed his mind about wanting to develop it due to money problems and wanted to make a quick sale. And it's perfect. So too bad for that guy, but a quick sale was what he wanted and he got it.

At this point it's almost completely wooded. It's a bit hilly, but there's a portion that's flat enough to build a small house with a bit of work. There's a small creek running along one side of the property feeding into a lake. That lake is about a 5 minute walk away, following the creek. From the property, there are hiking trails leading in like six different directions. There was bunny shit and deer shit all over the place and, unsurprisingly (given the bunnies) plenty of signs of coyotes as well. The only neighbor in the area to have put up a house at this point tells me wolves, black bears, and moose also show up from time to time.

Another cool thing, as viewed through the eyes of a prepper nutcase like myself, is that the flat area where I'd put the house is right next to a steep, fairly high hill (all part of the property), which leaves open the possibility of having a basement extend from under the house to under the hill a bit up into it as sort of a large hidden extra room. You know, like those bunkers or torture rooms they always have out in the boonies in crime shows Tongue That's just my imagination working overtime, however. I don't know if I could get it approved, and I do in fact plan on keeping everything legal Smile

So you guys got the property! Congratulations!

I recently bought a house with my ex-boyfriend and it needed/needs a lot of work. The person who owned this house before us was a do-it-yourselfer, except he had absolutely no skills and no rhyme or reason for anything he did. Case in point: I currently have a bathroom sink in my den where a wet bar sink should be. So you can imagine the look on people’s faces when they come to my house and I have a bathroom sink just randomly sitting in my den. Hobo Anyway, that’s just one of his many fuck-ups.

Of course, now my boyfriend and I are no longer together, but we are both still living here, continuing to fix up the house so we can sell it. When we bought the house, we planned on staying together, even though we were both very unhappy in our rship. But we both wanted the house and so we bought it. I was hoping things would get better between us, they didn’t, and life goes on.

You and your girlfriend are together now, maybe the house will help make things better or maybe things will get better on their own? Who knows? Either way, it sounds like you are both doing it for your kids so they can have an awesome place to grow up, so no matter what happens, it sounds like it will all work out house-wise.

Your new property sounds amazing--definitely sounds like a dream property! Woods and a lake--what’s not to love?
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13-12-2015, 10:03 PM
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I went out to bake potatoes (I got those big Idaho baking potatoes Friday, yummay!) using the propane grill, but it started raining. Just a light drizzle, but the grill is in the open, and those spuds would have taken hours to get done. I do them on the grill to keep that heat out of the house. I guess that since it is going to be about 40°F again tonight, I could have used the waste heat from the oven to keep the house warm. We'll just throw another quilt on the bed instead. Damn, I am one cheap sumbitch! Though I prefer to call it "efficient", and "eco-friendly"! Tongue
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13-12-2015, 10:06 PM
RE: What is your latest first world problem ?
(13-12-2015 10:00 PM)jennybee Wrote:  
(13-12-2015 09:17 PM)yakherder Wrote:  First the additional first world BS portion of the deal. My girlfriend / common law and I will both be investing in this place in the coming years, and I don't expect our relationship to suddenly get better. But, worst case scenario, we eventually separate, she ends up with the property and whatever we've added to it, and my kids have an awesome place to explore as they grow up. I can live with that. And in the process of doing this I'll learn some lessons that will allow me to do it more efficiently the second time around. So even with this, I'll keep looking for other similar cheap undeveloped properties.

At any rate... I Didn't get to explore as much as I'd like because I had both of my kids with me, but I liked what I saw. I was worried because my first concern was why someone hadn't developed the place already. I assumed there had to be something prohibitively challenging about it that wasn't obvious from the pictures, the online description, and the various documentation I'd been able to dig up, and I wanted to find what that problem was. Turns out it's only because the government owned the whole area up until 3 years ago before sectioning it off and putting it on the market for private ownership. The guy who owned it those three years simply changed his mind about wanting to develop it due to money problems and wanted to make a quick sale. And it's perfect. So too bad for that guy, but a quick sale was what he wanted and he got it.

At this point it's almost completely wooded. It's a bit hilly, but there's a portion that's flat enough to build a small house with a bit of work. There's a small creek running along one side of the property feeding into a lake. That lake is about a 5 minute walk away, following the creek. From the property, there are hiking trails leading in like six different directions. There was bunny shit and deer shit all over the place and, unsurprisingly (given the bunnies) plenty of signs of coyotes as well. The only neighbor in the area to have put up a house at this point tells me wolves, black bears, and moose also show up from time to time.

Another cool thing, as viewed through the eyes of a prepper nutcase like myself, is that the flat area where I'd put the house is right next to a steep, fairly high hill (all part of the property), which leaves open the possibility of having a basement extend from under the house to under the hill a bit up into it as sort of a large hidden extra room. You know, like those bunkers or torture rooms they always have out in the boonies in crime shows Tongue That's just my imagination working overtime, however. I don't know if I could get it approved, and I do in fact plan on keeping everything legal Smile

So you guys got the property! Congratulations!

I recently bought a house with my ex-boyfriend and it needed/needs a lot of work. The person who owned this house before us was a do-it-yourselfer, except he had absolutely no skills and no rhyme or reason for anything he did. Case in point: I currently have a bathroom sink in my den where a wet bar sink should be. So you can imagine the look on people’s faces when they come to my house and I have a bathroom sink just randomly sitting in my den. Hobo Anyway, that’s just one of his many fuck-ups.

Of course, now my boyfriend and I are no longer together, but we are both still living here, continuing to fix up the house so we can sell it. When we bought the house, we planned on staying together, even though we were both very unhappy in our rship. But we both wanted the house and so we bought it. I was hoping things would get better between us, they didn’t, and life goes on.

You and your girlfriend are together now, maybe the house will help make things better or maybe things will get better on their own? Who knows? Either way, it sounds like you are both doing it for your kids so they can have an awesome place to grow up, so no matter what happens, it sounds like it will all work out house-wise.

Your new property sounds amazing--definitely sounds like a dream property! Woods and a lake--what’s not to love?

We have an unfair advantage in the fact that my stepfather was a carpenter outside of the commercial fishing season and taught me a lot (made me help him at work to save on labor costs), and my girlfriend's father is a carpenter and owns his own business. So we both have some resources to pull from in that regards Smile

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13-12-2015, 10:09 PM
RE: What is your latest first world problem ?
(13-12-2015 09:59 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(13-12-2015 09:48 PM)Fireball Wrote:  Hmm. Well, I'd shake the shit out of that relationship issue before I invested that kind of sweat equity and/or money into anything. Then again, one never knows how it will work out down the road. We'll be married 35 years next February. There were times when either one of us wanted to choke the other one, but we've lasted through it. I don't know if that just means we're both masochists or what.

The thought crossed my mind. I despise drama. But as much as we don't get along romantically, we do get along practically. She's rational and I trust her completely. There's no hate between us. It's just not ideal for us to break up right now with a 1 year old and a four year old. It's also financially inconvenient. We're both starting to make good money, but we haven't invested a lot yet. The fact that we manage to keep our living expenses ridiculously low right now allows us to take advantage of opportunities just like this when, as singles without combined expenses, we'd have significantly less disposable income.

And however it ends up, I'd rather not let this opportunity pass. The place is just too perfect and too cheap. One of us will get our retirement dream home out of this, and either way the kids get a cool place to grow up in or vacation in when they're older.

I hope it works out for the best for everybody, though I have no idea what that entails.
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13-12-2015, 10:23 PM (This post was last modified: 14-12-2015 05:59 AM by yakherder.)
RE: What is your latest first world problem ?
(13-12-2015 10:09 PM)Fireball Wrote:  though I have no idea what that entails.

Me getting deployed immediately after completing the home so I don't have to worry about it Tongue

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14-12-2015, 11:34 AM
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(13-12-2015 07:51 PM)Aliza Wrote:  A secret rendezvous is not totally out of the question, though.

YES! I love the secret rendezvous option.

Also, not to nick pick, but I'm not Jewish as that would sort of conflict with the whole atheist thing.

That's not how it works, man. We're stuck in the doghouse with the lot of them whether we like it or not.

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