What is your ultimate authority?
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08-10-2014, 09:22 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(07-10-2014 10:06 PM)natachan Wrote:  
(07-10-2014 08:59 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  How do you know this? Drinking Beverage

How do you know it's not the case?

Provide an honest answer or I'm done. If you can't provide a non-circular argument or one I haven't debunked I have better things to do and my ignore list can be added to.

Really? You're asking me to prove a negative? Gasp

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08-10-2014, 09:23 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(08-10-2014 08:36 AM)Zippo Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 01:00 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  If you don't have one, your position is absurd.

I am my own ultimate authority in the same way you are your own ultimate authority.

Ok, let's do a test. Create a universe in front of you. No? Then you're not an ultimate authority.

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08-10-2014, 09:32 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(08-10-2014 09:23 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 08:36 AM)Zippo Wrote:  I am my own ultimate authority in the same way you are your own ultimate authority.

Ok, let's do a test. Create a universe in front of you. No? Then you're not an ultimate authority.

Based on what? A better word choice may do you well as ULTIMATE can and frequently means last... as in final in a list. If there was any persons ultimate authority, it would be themselves because they must dictate their authority.

If Ultimate in some supreme/perfect type of sense, what would be any reasonable logical means to think there must be such a thing that exists?

You seem to have a problem with absurdity in nature, but open up, there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that it is absurd. That negates nothing.

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08-10-2014, 09:32 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(08-10-2014 09:22 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(07-10-2014 10:06 PM)natachan Wrote:  How do you know it's not the case?

Provide an honest answer or I'm done. If you can't provide a non-circular argument or one I haven't debunked I have better things to do and my ignore list can be added to.

Really? You're asking me to prove a negative? Gasp

You made an assertion that God is necessary. I told you it wasn't so. You ask me to prove it. I had already given reasons for my beliefs, so the question was how you supported the opposite. And you KNOW that's what I was asking, since I've asked it several times before. So you are dishonest and a coward.

I'm done. Be damn grateful this isn't AF and there's no anti troll rules. I won't engage anymore. I don't deal with liars and I demand honesty if I am to engage with someone. Good day sir.
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08-10-2014, 09:44 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(08-10-2014 09:23 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 08:36 AM)Zippo Wrote:  I am my own ultimate authority in the same way you are your own ultimate authority.

Ok, let's do a test. Create a universe in front of you. No? Then you're not an ultimate authority.

1. Why are you using 'creating a universe' as a criteria?
2. Can you prove that any sentient being created the universe in the first place?
Your argument is being built on sand right now.

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08-10-2014, 09:49 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(08-10-2014 09:44 AM)Winterwolf00 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 09:23 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Ok, let's do a test. Create a universe in front of you. No? Then you're not an ultimate authority.

1. Why are you using 'creating a universe' as a criteria?
2. Can you prove that any sentient being created the universe in the first place?
Your argument is being built on sand right now.

1. In order to be an ultimate authority, you must be an ultimate being.
2. No. The creator of the universe transcends sentience.

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08-10-2014, 09:51 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(08-10-2014 09:49 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  1. In order to be an ultimate authority, you must be an ultimate being.

Irrelevant and probably not even possible.

(08-10-2014 09:49 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  2. No. The creator of the universe transcends sentience.

Meaningless statement.
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08-10-2014, 10:13 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
I create a universe every time I load up a sandbox game. Therefore, I am an ultimate authority.

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08-10-2014, 11:17 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
(08-10-2014 09:49 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  2. No. The creator of the universe transcends sentience.


This, this post right here.

Okay... IF the thing you are talking about is 'Timeless', 'Ageless', 'Formless', 'Sentient-less'....

Then it MUST also be things like 'Empathic-less' and 'Care-less' since those are also ONLY things of this reality....

Again, why/how can you say you think believing in something WHICH DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU or can even acknowledge your existence.....is some how a good thing...?

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08-10-2014, 11:33 AM
RE: What is your ultimate authority?
Me thinks he doesn't see that it says "sentience" and not "science". Or maybe he doesn't know what "sentience" means.

He makes zero sense. Drinking Beverage

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