What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
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30-09-2013, 02:48 PM (This post was last modified: 30-09-2013 02:55 PM by absols.)
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
what u claim is shit, so what about claiming about others rants
it is not ur business shitty what anyone else post here

as if that poster redshit is urself or as if im the one that attacked him in his own persona right

while u jump to take advantage of it, by copying lexical translation of insulting me to make it look the rule to follow anywhere i am

u go pay all what u think having piece of shit till u get down to ur level and watch people like me in quantity stepping on ur head made for shit
shit is to hit roughly upon they say it brings luck to the person above of course will get positive life while u will wish dying soon

as if it is not obvious the animal u r meaning business with what i post

fuck u piece of lowest being, any post is to the poster rights only

and what communication is but objective self expressions posts

as if it is not obvious how u r against anything u say while meaning to kill it

and anyone speak positively to who is relatively the same, or wat can u see of speaking to others when u cant see the truth, piece of evilest can b who wont but mean only her, as if ur roles in forum is taken seriously by anybody or anyone

everything is in truth till the end much more then at the beggining of all

dont ever dare post anything to me freak head it is my last reply to u

fuck u
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30-09-2013, 03:37 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
(30-09-2013 01:11 PM)kim Wrote:  
(30-09-2013 07:30 AM)absols Wrote:  this is completely retarded word, on what base you judge what is unintelligent???

RedJamaX's word - unintelligible
unintelligible |ˌəninˈteləjəbəl|
adjective
impossible to understand : dolphin sounds are unintelligible to humans.

Absols' word - unintelligent
unintelligent |ˌəninˈteləjənt|
adjective
having or showing a low level of intelligence : a good-natured but unintelligent boy.

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Absols, I (and possibly others) did not read beyond your first sentence because you: (1) possibly did not comprehend the word RedJamaX wrote ... and/or (2) in your response, you used an entirely different word with an entirely different meaning... and then proceeded to simply rant with a wall of text.

RedJamaX was correct, your wall of text rants are very often unintelligible. Which means they are impossible to understand.

Pay attention to what people write and pay even closer attention to what you write... if you do, you will have a more positive experience.

I was going to respond to Absols... but I think you covered it... And much more clearly than I was going to.

Thanks!
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30-09-2013, 04:18 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
(30-09-2013 02:48 PM)absols Wrote:  dont ever dare post anything to me freak head it is my last reply to u

fuck u

I can post whatever I want and to whomever I want... and I can even spell and be understood by others when I do so.

Oh, I guarantee it is not your last reply. However, fuck you just as much. Drinking Beverage

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30-09-2013, 07:59 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
(30-09-2013 07:30 AM)absols Wrote:  
(30-09-2013 06:04 AM)RedJamaX Wrote:  er... uh....

what? Huh

Most of what you said is unintelligible. however, I will address one of your claims.


You are very wrong. While my atheism addresses only one thing, the non-belief in that one thing has a broad effect on my entire life and the way I live it, both in a day-to-day manner, as well and preparing for the future. I no longer feel as though somebody will be there to carry me, I am responsible for myself. I am no longer being "tested" by some immortal all powerful being to prove myself, things happen in life, some times you are prepared, some times you are not. But I no longer sulk about it, wondering "why me" and looking to the sky as though there is something there as I imagine a condescending face looking down as if to say "I know what's good for you". My atheism taught me to accept me for who I am, and not hate myself because I couldn't measure up to some impossible expectation. The journey of my enlightenment taught me how to improve myself without waiting for a "sign", but to take my own initiative. It taught me that not only is there no god who's going to "save" me, but none of the people around the world. And that is even more reason to be a productive member of our society, promoting a positive outlook on life, raising my children to be intelligent, self sufficient, reasonable individuals who can make positive contributions to the world. The more good people there are, the less evil people there will be. My atheism helps me to understand the real world that I live in and how I fit into this great big puzzle as nearly insignificant. And that's just a tiny fraction of what being an atheist has done for me. As a theist I was trapped in a delusional bubble where my imagination ruled the causality of the world in which I lived in... while it "seemed" as though I had an expanded view of the universe with limitless possibilities, I realize now it was just a mental trap, holding me back from the rationality of the Real World. I would compare it to the difference between dreaming and being awake... in a dream (theism), anything is possible, but when you are awake (atheism based on rationalism), you can actually do something with your life.

this is completely retarded word, on what base you judge what is unintelligent???

long gibberish post, not even one objective word
how do atheism help u in ur life???

i didnt ask u about u, why do u want to believe that, or what do u hate about god, i asked a very clear question, prove atheism as a positive source, what did you do as an atheist good, that is due to count on urself alone ???

how could u believe doing smthg with ur life when you are realizing by being atheist, your mortal condition more ???

while in fact, being alone cant make the image of being awake
dreaming is about yourself being alone image
awake is about seeing everything of its fact light

it is funny how u paint atheism as a religious man
bringing out all the good in u, for the world to b lesser evil...u almost make me cry

atheism is nothing to that at all

it is just the knowledge that everything is objectively none, but intelligent as the only possible way
and subjectively u cant handle being ruled by another, or thinking wat u cant see and touch urself
in all atheist is who can deal neutrally with anything everyday and mean a separate time for some hobbies and creations stuffs that would b done with pleasure

atheism exist much before u decided to convert to

when u mean smthg else u must create another word

the world dont rely on u, it is not bc u become atheist that the world will change

it is what it is, deciding to b good urself wont stop the evil being where it is
on the contrary it is risking being trapped by evil u believe existing

the world is not a rational thing, u talk about world as if it is an easy task

the world is very complex existence and life, u cant mean but urself reality and that is what an atheist believe to
an atheist is a scientist for the salary as any other individual, he is not meaning the world rationality and the goodness of people

and it is funny how u mean by atheism being less ambitious then a religious man

on the contrary bc all is up to u then atheist is who think very highly about himself

ur expectation through religions is what confirm ur perspective upon urself as being nothing that matter

this is why atheism represent the devil to god in religion, clearly thinking as a superior being and believing being the reason of its own self and life

your background is still the same, while u r meaning to steal atheists life
so actually you are acting as a fanatic religious guy who is killing atheism for one god

again u prove how u dont respect anything existing really, nor that u admit to any else to b living other then urself

it is already all one in the sense of absolute abstraction as the reference of everything

there is no good separated from bad in the same reality of words

atheism is good theism is bad

there is always the same reference that justify both depending on the objective situation and the subjective meaning wills or willing mean

but after all it is one world so the same standard reference

fuck u with ur crap lies market

And the stigma on the street is that we atheists are the angry ones... Huh
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30-09-2013, 08:32 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
People change with their circumstances. There can be a plethora of reasons why some might convert to theism. Could be peer pressure, life difficulties, fear of death, too much taco bell after drinking a 12 pack, etc. I personally think people have reasons to want to convert, even if they don't know the reasons. I also don't hold to the "true" anything when it comes to matters of the psyche.
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30-09-2013, 08:48 PM
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DarkLight Wrote:I had to look that one up. I knew Peter Steele was an atheist, he had spoken publicly about it, and I even had a quote from him that I really liked about it when I was younger. Anyhow, I looked it up to confirm it, yeah reconverted to Catholicism. Also, I didn't know he died, three years ago as well. Can't believe he died three years ago and I just now found out.
My best friend pretty much worships TON, so I heard about it right away, and am reminded on facebook every year on the anniversary of his death because of her.

elesjei Wrote:I understand those kinds of atheists becoming theists, because the religion had already been a part of their lives, and unlike someone such as myself who grew up being too skeptical for my own good (not that such a thing exists Tongue), they never investigated, challenged, or in any way reasoned through the issue, so in the absence of contrary evidence their minds were susceptible to mysticism.
Yes, but I think it's that some people don't necessarily value objective truth as much as comfort. Some people may be atheists for reasons of skepticism, and STILL turn to religion if they feel especially hopeless or something, I've seen it happen. The reason it's difficult to understand, I think, is because a lot of us value logic and reason. I think some people decide that they'd rather have the comforting lies, even after deciding religion is crap for a long time. I think sometimes, atheists in foxholes really do turn to religion. Saying they were never really atheists just sounds too much like "no true scotsman."
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30-09-2013, 09:06 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
This is a question I would love to have an answer for, with regard to Momzilla. She was never religious and was actually more anti-Catholic, that would probably be the best description. I have heard from others that she now attends church regularly. I can only surmise that she is trying to pray her way out of decades of evil behavior. I am thinking she better be going to church daily because outside of the church she is still a hateful, vengeful, scheming, manipulative creature.

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02-10-2013, 01:46 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
I'm kind of curious why no one has mentioned Kingsy yet ... or why he hasn't shown up himself to add some thoughts.

He's probably pretty busy with his new job. He'll duck in on the weekend, I'm sure. Drinking Beverage

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02-10-2013, 06:00 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
I don't think KC is a likely candidate to abandon his faith. Just sayin, if he hasn't by now, given all the info he has I can't imagine what evidence that contradicts the Christian god will become available which would make him say "Okay, that's it! There is no God!".

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02-10-2013, 06:04 PM
RE: What kind of atheist converts to a theist?
(02-10-2013 06:00 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  I don't think KC is a likely candidate to abandon his faith. Just sayin, if he hasn't by now, given all the info he has I can't imagine what evidence that contradicts the Christian god will become available which would make him say "Okay, that's it! There is no God!".

I'm thinkin' a sharp rap to the back of his head. Consider

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