What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
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08-02-2016, 09:45 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
Fatboldhobbit,

Uncontrolled rage would not allow one to type as that takes some level of control.

I have short term memory problems. What does that have to do with being banned? There are some here that act differently than the rest, but most of you fit nicely into a singular defensive, offending mold.

Didn't attempt murder. That would entail actually trying and failing. I did neither so stop stretching the truth.

Never ever said I was incarcerated for multiple issues. It has always been traffic laws and things resulting from those traffic laws. So again stop assuming and stretching. Also, what does that have to do with my bannishment?

No, I admitted that anger used to be a big part of my life and that it can still surface as it can in anyone. So what does that have to do with my being banned?

Actually I said many times that I was saved after not committing a crime. Not that being saved stopped me from committng it that night.

I do not in any way exude misogynist behavior, and of all the things you lie about in reference to me, that one is offensive. So points for you I guess. Still doesn't make it true.
I hold all as equals and always have even before. So your lying even more.

Why aren't you bannd for lying about people based on your own twisted little perception?
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08-02-2016, 09:52 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
(08-02-2016 09:07 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(08-02-2016 09:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  Did you even understand your little cut-and-paste?

It shows that your chase was assault.
Read the last part. And yes I understood it.

No, you didn't understand it. The last sentence states it is assault if the other person perceives it as a threat.

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08-02-2016, 09:58 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
(08-02-2016 09:38 AM)natachan Wrote:  I'm getting somewhat worried.

You ADMIT you intended to hurt someone, perhaps kill them. You ADMIT to taking action in that regard. You ADMIT that you have been violent and that you have trouble controlling yourself.

I am deeply concerned by this.

Ignoring the legal issues of attempted murder (by the way, this can't be shaken off by saying "no one was hurt", legally the label still sticks) this shows a real problem with anger.It shows a need for counseling at the very least. A claim of being saved by Jesus doesn't help, real intervention is needed.

I am also somewhat irritated as many others are of the dismissal of us as individuals but just of seeing us as a whole. That shows a level of callousness that is astounding, if not outright bigotry.
How is that bigotry? I generally look at things from an outside or large inclusive perspective. It's not bigotry. You can be worried all you want. It doesn't change anything. You, like others here, take what I say and twist it up into something different. If I commuted a crime and admitted it here then have me arrested. Otherwise stop adjusting what I say to fit our little mold. Again similar to most here so why is it wrong for me to categorize you with the whole? Are you not part of this group. Are all men and women not part of humanity? Be offended after you change from the mold you have made yourself. Of course if you did that then you wouldn't be part of the herd in he first place now would you?

Thinking atheist my Ass.

More like herd against religion or anyone or thing that represents it without any individual thought at all, but just herd mentality.

I was a thinking atheist. It eventually brought forth actual useful conclusions instead of hate mongering all while pretending some one else is being hateful.

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08-02-2016, 09:59 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
(08-02-2016 09:52 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(08-02-2016 09:07 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Read the last part. And yes I understood it.

No, you didn't understand it. The last sentence states it is assault if the other person perceives it as a threat.
Exactly. They didn't perceive it as such. They thought it was a joke for the most part.
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08-02-2016, 10:09 AM (This post was last modified: 08-02-2016 10:12 AM by Fatbaldhobbit.)
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
(08-02-2016 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Uncontrolled rage would not allow one to type as that takes some level of control.
No, uncontrolled is when you're acting without thinking clearly. You are splitting hairs to justify or condone your actions.

(08-02-2016 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I have short term memory problems. What does that have to do with being banned? There are some here that act differently than the rest, but most of you fit nicely into a singular defensive, offending mold.
By itself, memory issues do not. But when you can't differentiate posts made within 24 hours, and worse don't see a problem with it, and worse have anger issues, then it's a problem.

(08-02-2016 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Didn't attempt murder. That would entail actually trying and failing. I did neither so stop stretching the truth.
Sigh.
(08-02-2016 06:59 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  No. I'm not an attempted murderer. I never actually tried to kill anyone, but I did come really close to attempting it. It was a bad time in my life. Technically, attempted murder is physically trying to kill someone, and though I may have chased this particular individual around her car methodically, in the end, instead of choking the life out of her, or even trying, I gave her her keys and walked away.

But yeah, I probably would have ended up doing it at a later date if I hadn't actually been saved.
Is it a stretch to call it attempted murder? Possibly. However considering that you clearly detailed your thought processes (or lack of) and indicated that you likely would have done it in the future. You were in fact, taking action by chasing someone. Sounds close enough for me.

(08-02-2016 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Never ever said I was incarcerated for multiple issues. It has always been traffic laws and things resulting from those traffic laws. So again stop assuming and stretching. Also, what does that have to do with my bannishment?
Do you not understand that we can quote your own posts? Has that not filtered in yet?
(08-02-2016 06:59 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I have problems with authority and when I go to jail for old traffic shit, I pretty much demand a bible.
"When" implies plural. Plural is multiple. By definition.

(08-02-2016 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  No, I admitted that anger used to be a big part of my life and that it can still surface as it can in anyone. So what does that have to do with my being banned?
I honestly think that I am not required to explain that. If you can't figure that one out on your own, I can't help you.

(08-02-2016 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I do not in any way exude misogynist behavior, and of all the things you lie about in reference to me, that one is offensive. So points for you I guess. Still doesn't make it true.
I hold all as equals and always have even before. So your lying even more.
The posters who brought up the issue quoted enough to prove the point. Again, your posts are here, archived and retrievable.

(08-02-2016 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Why aren't you bannd for lying about people based on your own twisted little perception?
I would be happy to discuss any post I have made with any of the mods, at their convenience.

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08-02-2016, 10:09 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
After reading the last few pages, I'm having a negative experience with xtians, right now. Sad

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08-02-2016, 10:10 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
(08-02-2016 10:09 AM)Heatheness Wrote:  After reading the last few pages, I'm having a negative experience with xtians, right now. Sad

I was just about to say the exact same thing!

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08-02-2016, 10:11 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
So who was the last theist to get banned from this forum. We can surely ban Pops too. Since the theists are all part of one big group, we don't really need to treat them on their own merit as individuals.


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08-02-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
Pops,

I don’t think you’re an attempted murder. I don’t want to trivialize thoughts of murdering someone, but I think what you really have is a problem with anger that you’ve been trying to manage as best you can. Becoming so enraged that you consider murder as a possible recourse –and then reconsidering it immediately after- is not the same as making actual plans to carry out your idea. Short of your confession, no one can prove what you did or didn't think.

But Pops, if you have these thoughts, it would be in your best interest to see a counselor. –Even a Christian counselor. What happens if you’re in this situation again? What if the circumstances are so extreme that you’re unable to turn the other cheek? You need the skills to deal with your anger so you don’t hurt anyone or end up with a life-long prison sentence. Get these skills from a trained professional.
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08-02-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: What negative experiences have you had with Christians?
(08-02-2016 09:58 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(08-02-2016 09:38 AM)natachan Wrote:  I'm getting somewhat worried.

You ADMIT you intended to hurt someone, perhaps kill them. You ADMIT to taking action in that regard. You ADMIT that you have been violent and that you have trouble controlling yourself.

I am deeply concerned by this.

Ignoring the legal issues of attempted murder (by the way, this can't be shaken off by saying "no one was hurt", legally the label still sticks) this shows a real problem with anger.It shows a need for counseling at the very least. A claim of being saved by Jesus doesn't help, real intervention is needed.

I am also somewhat irritated as many others are of the dismissal of us as individuals but just of seeing us as a whole. That shows a level of callousness that is astounding, if not outright bigotry.
How is that bigotry? I generally look at things from an outside or large inclusive perspective. It's not bigotry. You can be worried all you want. It doesn't change anything. You, like others here, take what I say and twist it up into something different. If I commuted a crime and admitted it here then have me arrested. Otherwise stop adjusting what I say to fit our little mold. Again similar to most here so why is it wrong for me to categorize you with the whole? Are you not part of this group. Are all men and women not part of humanity? Be offended after you change from the mold you have made yourself. Of course if you did that then you wouldn't be part of the herd in he first place now would you?

Thinking atheist my Ass.

More like herd against religion or anyone or thing that represents it without any individual thought at all, but just herd mentality.

I was a thinking atheist. It eventually brought forth actual useful conclusions instead of hate mongering all while pretending some one else is being hateful.

Peace

*sigh*

You have no ideas about my or anyone else's views of religion and simply want to lump us all together as a "herd against religion or anyone or thing that represents it." You haven't read ANY of the posts offered by anyone here ABOUT there views on religion or religious people. You just make an base generalization to support your own preconceptions. That's bigotry. Our views vary wildly, but admitting that would take away from your perception.

I have twisted nothing you have said. You don't like what you said and its implications. You committed a crime, by definition. The fact that it was not reported and the victim doesn't wish to press charges is immaterial to that fact, except that it means that you got away with it.

And if you think you have a good reason to be a theist, present your case. Define your god and put forth a clear positive case for its existence. Because so far no one has done this. All you've done is spout garbage.
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