What's Naturalism?
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
23-11-2014, 05:39 PM
RE: What's Naturalism?
(23-11-2014 05:37 PM)smileXsmileXsmile Wrote:  
(23-11-2014 05:29 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  Based on my religion class (so this could be absolute bs)

First off, that made me laugh.

Anyway, I'm looking it up right now. From my very limited knowledge, it seems to be that everything has a cause. it's the opposite of believing in the supernatural. "All known phenomena are governed by the laws of causation. Including life." This brings up philosophical paradox of "do we really have free will" Here's my sources thus far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXzWt5LWXtA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgVgAqpFxMY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GauXU1DlhYs

hey you try being an atheist in a catholic school system. Religion every year. Only reason I didn't fail is because the teachers didn't expect anyone in the class to be able to effectively argue an opinion.

When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity.

You cannot successfully determine beforehand which side of the bread to butter.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Xinoftruden's post
23-11-2014, 05:52 PM
RE: What's Naturalism?
(23-11-2014 05:24 PM)smileXsmileXsmile Wrote:  
(23-11-2014 05:08 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  Why would an atheist not accept a naturalism as a philosobull viewpoint?
Let's make no mistake; despite the few studies which suggest correlation between atheism and intelligence, atheists are no less prone to Woo-ish bullshittery than anybody else; there are plenty of atheists who believe in ghosts and magic and the like.

Why would an atheist accept naturalism as a philosobull view?
Naturalism due to it's having no room for things outside the natural has no space for deities either, which are by nature universally reported to either be supernatural or an over-glorified natural process. Of course, it rejects the hippy 'glorified process' god as well because the natural process doesn't need that extra borderline supernatural element.
Atheist who are not embroiled in Woo would logically default to the stance of naturalism even if they didn't know it existed, as a logical consequence of removing the element of god-magic from the universe leads only to the conclusion that the universe works itself without magic. If they don't admit this, they basically need to appoint a new deity to run things.

Cool. I'm think I'm on board. Nothing's magic (thus far lol).

BUT when they say everything is natural, is that an absolute / is that gnostic knowledge, or is naturalism saying that it's extremely probable that everything is natural.

If read absolutely plainly, all the definition says is that "supernatural or spiritual explanations are excluded or discounted". Such explanations plain do not exist in the naturalistic model.

Whether you want to put that under the gnostic belief that they don't exist or agnostic that they might but might not is a matter of individual interpretation, I'd say.

The people closely associated with the namesake of female canines are suffering from a nondescript form of lunacy.
"Anti-environmentalism is like standing in front of a forest and going 'quick kill them they're coming right for us!'" - Jake Farr-Wharton, The Imaginary Friend Show.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
23-11-2014, 10:33 PM
RE: What's Naturalism?
Naturalism is looking at nature and saying, yep that's all natural.

Its not complicated.

Insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
24-11-2014, 12:11 AM
RE: What's Naturalism?
(23-11-2014 10:33 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Naturalism is looking at nature and saying, yep that's all natural.

Its not complicated.

I agree with you and the many other people saying similar things. It's very logical and not based on assumptions.

here's some more videos I watched on naturalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT45xLgAZ4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0EDcNp-NpE

"If you cannot explain it simply, you don't understand it enough" -Albert Einstein
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
24-11-2014, 01:50 AM
RE: What's Naturalism?
(23-11-2014 04:27 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  Can't imagine there being naturalist theists, they are mutually exclusive.

Dr. Ken Miller (co author of a biology textbook)

he's in the gray area, he believes there is a god and is a faithful church goer yet supports evolution and defended it while bashing ID in the Dover vs kitzmiller case saying science only excepts testable ideas
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply
Forum Jump: