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02-08-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
(02-08-2017 04:20 PM)Vera Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 04:04 PM)Fireball Wrote:  105F in the shade, and we're out with no shade, putting in a hand rail for the steps going up to the front door. I went up and bought a canopy. We'll deploy that and finish it tomorrow.


Just five more to go. At least you're not picking cotton...

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02-08-2017, 06:38 PM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
(02-08-2017 06:25 PM)Fireball Wrote:  


Well, duh - everybody knows it's Old Black Joe's who's still pickin' cotton...






Speaking of mines, went into an old gold mine around these parts, one that used slave labour, of course. We didn't go very deep but it was still... Yep, how can you *not* miss the "good ole days" Sleepy

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03-08-2017, 12:18 AM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
Marble-size hail fell here yesterday. Blink
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09-08-2017, 02:52 PM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
I'm going to make a very unscientific, non data backed ball park guess and say that something like 70% of our inmates are there for something drug related, whether they're using it, robbing someone to support their addiction, distribution it, or murdering a rival distributor. And I'm really starting to despise the effect drugs have on society in general.

There's a guy who, a couple years back, asked me for help finding treatment. That night I spent a few hours researching treatment facilities and putting together some contact information for him, as he was scheduled to get out soon.

Then I left corrections for just over a year and, when I came back, there he was again. Last night I spent about two hours, including my break, talking to him after he told me he has about 6 months to live. (I later talked with the nurses and they confirmed he has stage 4 lung cancer that is expected to progress into brain cancer. One of the two will eventually kill him.) His life will end in one of three contexts:

1. In jail, suffering from withdraw.

2. Handcuffed to a hospital bed, if his request for permanent medical TAP is approved.

3. Homeless, on the street, drugged up on whatever he can get hold of, if his request for early release is approved.

Because at this point, why bother right?

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09-08-2017, 03:06 PM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
(09-08-2017 02:52 PM)yakherder Wrote:  I'm going to make a very unscientific, non data backed ball park guess and say that something like 70% of our inmates are there for something drug related, whether they're using it, robbing someone to support their addiction, distribution it, or murdering a rival distributor. And I'm really starting to despise the effect drugs have on society in general.

There's a guy who, a couple years back, asked me for help finding treatment. That night I spent a few hours researching treatment facilities and putting together some contact information for him, as he was scheduled to get out soon.

Then I left corrections for just over a year and, when I came back, there he was again. Last night I spent about two hours, including my break, talking to him after he told me he has about 6 months to live. (I later talked with the nurses and they confirmed he has stage 4 lung cancer that is expected to progress into brain cancer. One of the two will eventually kill him.) His life will end in one of three contexts:

1. In jail, suffering from withdraw.

2. Handcuffed to a hospital bed, if his request for permanent medical TAP is approved.

3. Homeless, on the street, drugged up on whatever he can get hold of, if his request for early release is approved.

Because at this point, why bother right?

It's not the drugs, it's the crime and money in the drugs. The drugs make people withdraw, not go out and commit crimes. They have to force themselves out the door.

If I was that guy, I'd be wanting drugs too, that or kill myself since he has nothing but pain in his future.

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09-08-2017, 07:06 PM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
(09-08-2017 03:06 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 02:52 PM)yakherder Wrote:  I'm going to make a very unscientific, non data backed ball park guess and say that something like 70% of our inmates are there for something drug related, whether they're using it, robbing someone to support their addiction, distribution it, or murdering a rival distributor. And I'm really starting to despise the effect drugs have on society in general.

There's a guy who, a couple years back, asked me for help finding treatment. That night I spent a few hours researching treatment facilities and putting together some contact information for him, as he was scheduled to get out soon.

Then I left corrections for just over a year and, when I came back, there he was again. Last night I spent about two hours, including my break, talking to him after he told me he has about 6 months to live. (I later talked with the nurses and they confirmed he has stage 4 lung cancer that is expected to progress into brain cancer. One of the two will eventually kill him.) His life will end in one of three contexts:

1. In jail, suffering from withdraw.

2. Handcuffed to a hospital bed, if his request for permanent medical TAP is approved.

3. Homeless, on the street, drugged up on whatever he can get hold of, if his request for early release is approved.

Because at this point, why bother right?

It's not the drugs, it's the crime and money in the drugs. The drugs make people withdraw, not go out and commit crimes. They have to force themselves out the door.

If I was that guy, I'd be wanting drugs too, that or kill myself since he has nothing but pain in his future.

I think that depends on which drugs we're talking about. In his case, he's been hopelessly addicted since long before he had a terminal illness and willing to do anything to satisfy that addiction. Absolutely nothing else matters.

Though I do believe that drugs and the problems surrounding them are a huge drain on society, I'm leaning more and more towards complete decriminalization. First because I'm tired of the criminal organizations surrounding their distribution, which I've been dealing with in some form or another almost my entire adult life from the military to civilian law enforcement, and second because of the data supporting the theory that treating drug addiction as a public health issue rather than as a criminal issue ultimately leads towards less drug use.

We have no cards left to play against the gangs. Incarceration is not a deterrent because the prison system is just another black market opportunity for them. Even legal things that are prohibited within our institution increase drastically in value. Cigarettes go for $25 each. They'll jam a bunch of tobacco up their assess, get arrested on purpose for some petty crime carrying a minimal sentence, roll it in pages from the Bible or the Koran since religious articles are generally advised during searches, then get out and do it all over again. And in order to corner that market, they form institution based gangs and attack anyone who gets put in their range who might threaten their monopoly on it. Same thing with the illegal narcotics.

And now we're dealing with fentanyl. This just came out regarding the system in Alberta: Prison guards in Alberta hospitalized after exposure to fentanyl during searches

We're having similar problems in Ontario.

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09-08-2017, 07:12 PM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
(09-08-2017 03:06 PM)Dom Wrote:  that or kill myself since he has nothing but pain in his future.

That's a whole other issue within the system. The second someone lets on that they might be having suicidal thoughts, they are placed in segregation, everything except for a rip proof security mattress and gown is taken from them, right down to their underwear, and an officer is posted outside their cell to monitor them and write down every move they make. They are, in essence, not allowed to kill themselves while we're liable for them.

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09-08-2017, 07:34 PM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
(09-08-2017 07:12 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:06 PM)Dom Wrote:  that or kill myself since he has nothing but pain in his future.

That's a whole other issue within the system. The second someone lets on that they might be having suicidal thoughts, they are placed in segregation, everything except for a rip proof security mattress and gown is taken from them, right down to their underwear, and an officer is posted outside their cell to monitor them and write down every move they make. They are, in essence, not allowed to kill themselves while we're liable for them.

Yes, decriminalization is the only thing that will take the wind out of all that crime. Give one dose at a time for free to addicts. Always offer treatment. Eventually it will shrink to next to nothing.

Suicidal thoughts cannot be shared no matter who you are - given half a chance someone will cart you off to an institution. Which isn't really suited to make someone embrace life. There are many rational suicides, like the many elderly, who must remain secretive because when it comes to that topic you can't even tell your best friend lest you are carted off. Just sad.

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19-08-2017, 05:50 AM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
This guy:
Ottawa man charged with sexually assaulting child under 12

Quote:Karl Njolstad, 54, is facing several charges for child porn and sexual assault.

Police have charged an Ottawa man for allegedly sexually assaulting a young girl and making child pornography.
The girl in the incident was under 12 years old, according to an Ottawa Police Services media release.
Ottawa police's Sexual Assault and Child Abuse (SACA) Section charged Karl Njolstad, 54, with several offences following an investigation.
Njolstad was known to invite children from the Uplands Drive neighbourhood into his home to make movies, according to police.
He then surreptitiously recorded children changing their clothes, the release says.
Police say he also sexually assaulted a girl under the age of 12 while making child pornography.
He is facing charges of sexual interference, invitation to sexual touching, possession and production of child pornography, and voyeurism.
He was scheduled to appear in court on Saturday.
SACA investigators are concerned there may be other victims.
Anyone with information is asked to contact the Ottawa Police Service Major Case Managerment at 613-236-1222 ext. 5760.

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19-08-2017, 05:53 AM
RE: What's happening in your neck of the woods?
I had a shit earlier today.

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