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28-10-2014, 12:25 PM
What's next...
Hello there, I'm new here,that's my second post. I'm Bishoy, 21 year old guy, I first came here when I wanted help with a depression phase that happened during the last days of the beginning of my official deceleration of atheism, if that makes any sense (And I know it doesn't so in English I recently declared that I was 100% an atheist, I declared that to myself anyway, I'm still in the closet Big Grin) so I went through a depression phase recently because of that, I was depressed because I lost hope in the existence of a protecting god that will _someday_ deal with the evils here and I because I lost hope in an afterlife, a safe place for the oppressed, a safe place atheism can't offer, and religion offer it in many sizes and shapes Big Grin.

I came here to ask for help and the guys here in the Health and Psychology forum are great, they offered more than help, they offered a community Smile so it's time for me to offer help.

And to answer that age-old question of what's next, what to do?... the answer is basically be better at work, work out, eat what you love, go out, travel, help out needy people, listen to music (and by the way you don't have to stop listening to religious music if you're an atheist, I still listen to them because the are beautiful, not because I believe in what they say), find your soul mate, learn a new skill, you can basically do whatever you want.

I mean atheism gave me a thing religion couldn't give me that is thinking in a scientific way, when a problem happens, I seek realistic solutions,I now don't wait for a god to deal with the problem, I try to solve it myself,atheism didn't give me super powers to fight problems, it gave me the ability to think about solving the problem first instead of praying to god to solve it before thinking about a solution. Atheism doesn't have to be a dark secret of yours (If you're living in a community where atheism is demonized) it can be the liberating 'belief' of yours, it can liberate you from talking to/blaming/loving/praising and even thinking about an imaginary being called god, by the way if you live in a community where atheism is an abomination don't even consider telling anybody because you don't want this stuck on you, I saw lots of these cases, and they get nasty.

I want your opinion guys, do you think that there's is a next step, is 'what's next?' even a valid question? and I wish all the best to the new 'believers' Big Grin and sorry for the huge amount of emoticons by the way, but that who I am Tongue
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28-10-2014, 01:26 PM
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if I were you I'd catch up on facts, especially facts that fundies don't won't people to know about muahahahahahahaha

also watch these

https://www.youtube.com/user/atheistcoffee/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/AntiCitizenX/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/AronRa/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/crashcourse/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HZzGXnYL5I

and reading these Thumbsup
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

all we want right now is to keep religion out of places it doesn't belong
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28-10-2014, 01:29 PM
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Life is not meaningless because a barbaric deity doesn't exist that will punish you in the after-life for not being it's slave.
Enjoy your life free of the chains of arbitrary religious rules and the guilt associated for not obeying them. Thumbsup

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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28-10-2014, 01:32 PM
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Welcome! I'm glad things are working out for you. I, too, went through a depressed phase as I was coming to grips about not believing. You're not alone in this.
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28-10-2014, 01:36 PM
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Well, I find atheism to be liberating as I said above, the thing is, if you live in a community where atheism is like eating your own child, you don't really enjoy your life a lot after becoming an atheist, you feel that you are doing something dark and aweful, I saw this, I lived this, so I don't want anybody to experience this again, and Ace that's a lot of resources thanks Smile I've been looking for rational youtube atheism as the trend nowadays is to insult religious people just for fun, and TheInquisition life is not meaningless, I want to love someone who loves me, to have a daughter, and to work in a job that I love, and that's the meaning of my life Smile
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28-10-2014, 01:36 PM
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you are just scratching the surface. When I begin to hear of all the ways people are controlled by religion my heart breaks for them.

When you give up religion you are free, but also the one responsible.


free to have sex with any consenting adult, in any fashion, knowing that a sky daddy isnt watching.

free to marry who you want - for many women this is huge

free to divorce, free to not be a mother if you don't want to be one.

free to receive blood products in an emergency, to donate your organs- JW's and many religions have problems with it.


free to have your children learn about science in school.

find beauty in the nude body and not consider it porn


on and on and on and on


"Life is a daring adventure or it is nothing"--Helen Keller
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28-10-2014, 01:43 PM
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(28-10-2014 01:32 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Welcome! I'm glad things are working out for you. I, too, went through a depressed phase as I was coming to grips about not believing. You're not alone in this.

Thanks a lot. well, I guess the depression is like entry fees Big Grin plus I'm glad we didn't do something stupid as a result of the depression Smile
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28-10-2014, 01:52 PM
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(28-10-2014 01:36 PM)Bows and Arrows Wrote:  you are just scratching the surface. When I begin to hear of all the ways people are controlled by religion my heart breaks for them.

I'm afraid of what I'm going to find, I mean I saw people get hurt and get behind the bars for leaving religion, or in many cases killed, and if not all this and the family are 'kind' they would just disown you and you know, leave you to deal with a cruel world yourself, I mean what could happen more, how can religion be more destructive to the people that chose to leave it, I mean one of the biggest reasons I left Christianity is the notion that the people who didn't believe in Jesus will burn in hell forever regardless of how good they were. people should have a choice in what they do and don't believe in. best wishes Smile
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28-10-2014, 02:02 PM
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I'd say a good next step would be to brush up on some common religious arguments, just in case you find yourself in an argument. One of the worst things about atheism is seeing the smug looks on people's faces when they give you a tired old argument that's been debunked a million times before, and the best way to fight that look is to immediately shoot said argument down with logic.


Also, emoticons are never to be apologized for. Beat_stick

Popcorn I put more thought into fiction than theists put into reality.
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28-10-2014, 02:08 PM
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Bishoy, are you in a country where it is dangerous to be up-front about your religious (non) beliefs?

What's next is life Smile Life and love and joy and sadness... and the freedom to be yourself. All those invented ideas about natural instincts like sex and... well sex is the important one anyway... being evil - they can all get tossed in the trash can. All that bullshit about obeying some big bogeyman in the sky who'll *get* you if you put a foot wrong - they fall away.

Welcome to our world Smile

We'll love you just the way you are
If you're perfect -- Alanis Morissette
(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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