What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
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26-06-2017, 06:01 PM
What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
So I just saw this question in a YouTube video. The video is 45 minutes long so I can't be arsed to watch it.
But thought it would be fun to collect things that are wrong with the 10 commandments here.

* I will start with the fact that they are not universal for all Christians. Depending on denomination, they are a little different.
* Also the problem with those being the most important and most punishable commandments for Christians but every christian is breaking those rules.
* And what is about all the other commandments in the bible? Are they not important? Stop eating figs for fucks sake Big Grin

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26-06-2017, 06:04 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
Repetitive: Thou shalt not covet your neighbor's wife nor his ass. Repetitive!
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26-06-2017, 06:10 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
Stroking god's ego seems to be way more important than telling primitive folk: Hey, primitive folk, don't rape and don't have slaves. To begin with.

And then there's that whole property thing: "So, did I pack all my things? Clean clothes, my wife, my toothbrush... wait, did I put enough socks or not?"

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26-06-2017, 06:13 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
"Thou shalt honor thy father and mother."

> My father was a Lutheran and an overbearing tyrant who firmly believed in the biblical injunctions on the corporal punishment of children, that they should be beaten with rods and, "...by the blueness of their wounds shall they be cleansed." I suffer from mental issues to this day because of his abuse. I did not shed a single tear for him at his funeral and I see no rational reason why I should honor him or his memory. Consider
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26-06-2017, 06:22 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
"Thou shalt not commit murder."

God couldn't even follow that one. Why should I have to?

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26-06-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
Wait...what's wrong with figs?

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26-06-2017, 06:27 PM (This post was last modified: 26-06-2017 06:42 PM by Vera.)
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
(26-06-2017 06:13 PM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  "Thou shalt honor thy father and mother."

> My father was a Lutheran and an overbearing tyrant who firmly believed in the biblical injunctions on the corporal punishment of children, that they should be beaten with rods and, "...by the blueness of their wounds shall they be cleansed." I suffer from mental issues to this day because of his abuse. I did not shed a single tear for him at his funeral and I see no rational reason why I should honor him or his memory. Consider

This reminds me of a brilliant song by one of Italy's greatest singers and poets, Fabrizio de Andre. It's sung, as it were, by one of the thieves, crucified next to Jesus (much better in Italian, but...)

""Thou shalt have no other gods before me", often made me think
different folks who came from the east said that it was the same
They worshipped someone other than you and they did not hurt me
They worshipped someone other than you and they did not hurt me

Do Not take the name of the Lord in vain
With a knife stuck in my back I screamed His name in pain
but maybe he was tired, maybe he was too busy and He did not listen to my pain
but maybe he was tired, maybe too far away, really I named His name in vain

Honor your father and honor your mother and honor their beating stick
kiss the hand that broke your nose because you begged for a mouthful of food
when my father's heart stopped, I did not feel any pain
when my father's heart stopped, I did not feel any pain


Remember to observe the Sabbath, easy for us thieves
Breaking into temples, spewing psalms of slaves and their masters
without being tied to the altar, slaughtered like animals
without being tied to the altar, slaughtered like animals

The fifth says "you must not steal" and perhaps it's one I have observed
Stealing from the pockets of those that already had stolen from others
but I, a lawless thief, I stole in my name; they stole in God's name
but I, a lawless thief, I stole in my name; they stole in God's name

You shall not commit impure acts, do not disperse the seed
impregnate your woman each time you make love to her, and you'll be a man of faith
then the passion fades but the child remains and so many hunger kills
I may have confused pleasure and love, but I didn't create pain

The seventh said, "thou shalt not kill if you want to be worthy of heaven"
look at it today, this law of God, three time nailed to the cross
Look at the end of that Nazarene and a thief doesn't die any less
Look at the end of that Nazarene and a thief doesn't die any less

Do not bear false witness and help them to kill a man
They know Divine right by heart but they always forget forgiveness
I perjured the name of God and I perjured my honor but I feel no pain
I perjured the name of God and I perjured my honor but I feel no pain

Thou shalt not covet the property of others, don't desire their woman
tell that to the few, ask the lucky ones who have a woman and some wealth
In other men beds, still warm from their love I felt no pain
the envy of yesterday is not over yet, tonight I envy your life

But now that night comes and darkness takes the pain away from my eyes
and the sun sets beyond the dunes to rape other nights
I watch this man's dying, and Mother I feel pain
With compassion uncontaminated by hatred, mother I learned to love"




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26-06-2017, 06:30 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
"You shall have no other gods before me"

God openly admits that there are other gods around that you can choose from.

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26-06-2017, 06:35 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
(26-06-2017 06:25 PM)Jeanne Wrote:  Wait...what's wrong with figs?

I think it had to do with Jesus being hungry one day, and got angry when a fig tree refused to make some fruit for him so he cursed it. Figs are assholes that way.

With loaves & fishes however Jesus can magic up some grub no problem.

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26-06-2017, 06:41 PM
RE: What's wrong with the 10 commandments?
(26-06-2017 06:30 PM)unsapien Wrote:  "You shall have no other gods before me"

God openly admits that there are other gods around that you can choose from.
Because the decalogue predates the finished transition of the OT writings from polytheism to monotheism. The god who authored the commandments was the top dog in a heavenly council. He did not say, "you shall have no false gods" or even "you shall have no other gods". All he cares about is "me first".
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