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04-06-2014, 02:57 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 02:40 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  So penis does equal male.
By your definition. Not by everyone's. Problem?

Quote:I agree about definitions. As everyone has told me over the years gender is determined by the genitalia you are born with. I only every heard the gender is a choice argument from people who were afraid to say they were gay.
So now we learn by consensus from 'everyone has told me over the years' Rolleyes Come on, bugger, I know you're a teenager but you're smart Smile Also you *sure* about those people who were afraid to say they were gay? 'Cos I just gave you the bleedin' argument and I'm pretty sure I'm straight.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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04-06-2014, 02:58 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 02:55 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 02:46 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  Yeah if a human has all those parts, she is a female. If she has most still female. If she has none, based on evidence before they were removed still female. When she gets the sex organs of all males, then I can say she choose her gender. Until then you stay female. Even if she is packed with testosterone. No different than hyeans. We don't run around saying all hyenas are of the male gender. So no matter what your gentalia that you where born with, until you can change they whole system with the other, determines what gender you are.


So this woman wasn't actually male or female for the first 28 years of life?

'I was born without a womb': Woman, 28, left heartbroken by rare condition given hope as she could become first in Britain to have a uterus transplant

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/articl...z33hoyoq25


What should her passport have said? I for indeterminate? Does this mean that if she had tried to get married before gay marriage was allowed that the ceremony would have been void? Should be no never have been addressed as Ms but "Errmm?" ? Should she have been barred from both women's and men's toilets for being neither?

Do you still think your definition of gender is a useful one?

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04-06-2014, 02:59 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 02:57 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 02:40 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  So penis does equal male.
By your definition. Not by everyone's. Problem?

Quote:I agree about definitions. As everyone has told me over the years gender is determined by the genitalia you are born with. I only every heard the gender is a choice argument from people who were afraid to say they were gay.
So now we learn by consensus from 'everyone has told me over the years' Rolleyes Come on, bugger, I know you're a teenager but you're smart Smile Also you *sure* about those people who were afraid to say they were gay? 'Cos I just gave you the bleedin' argument and I'm pretty sure I'm straight.

Did everyone ignore that I changed my viewsHuh

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04-06-2014, 02:59 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 02:53 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 02:51 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  I already posted that link twice

Alright I have changed my position to neither side as apperently the subject is still in study.

http://www.nature.com/news/bibliometrics...ce-1.14321

What has a paper about gender inequality in academia got to do with the neurological bases of gender identity?
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04-06-2014, 03:00 PM
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(04-06-2014 02:53 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 02:51 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  I already posted that link twice

Alright I have changed my position to neither side as apperently the subject is still in study.

http://www.nature.com/news/bibliometrics...ce-1.14321

WTF? Did you just post a link to a statistical study on gender imbalance in the scientific community to support your position?

And BTW, you're now using the language of a climate change denier.
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04-06-2014, 03:01 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 02:56 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  I have changed my views to neither side after seeing a science source that said that it is a complicated subject. Got to change with science.

Nice going. Mostly science is being aware of the limits of your knowledge...

PS we all wrote thoughtful replies and then you went and changed yer bleedin' views before we hit post, didntcha? What are we supposed to do, *waste* all the typing?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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04-06-2014, 03:01 PM
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(04-06-2014 03:00 PM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 02:53 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  Alright I have changed my position to neither side as apperently the subject is still in study.

http://www.nature.com/news/bibliometrics...ce-1.14321

WTF? Did you just post a link to a statistical study on gender imbalance in the scientific community to support your position?

And BTW, you're now using the language of a climate change denier.

Well I have realized I was mistaken before. So the source seems to show what you guys are getting at. Which is why I am now in the middle.

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04-06-2014, 03:02 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 03:01 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 02:56 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  I have changed my views to neither side after seeing a science source that said that it is a complicated subject. Got to change with science.

Nice going. Mostly science is being aware of the limits of your knowledge...

PS we all wrote thoughtful replies and then you went and changed yer bleedin' views before we hit post, didntcha? What are we supposed to do, *waste* all the typing?

Sorry, thought you guys would notice it before.

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04-06-2014, 03:05 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 03:00 PM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 02:53 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  Alright I have changed my position to neither side as apperently the subject is still in study.

http://www.nature.com/news/bibliometrics...ce-1.14321

WTF? Did you just post a link to a statistical study on gender imbalance in the scientific community to support your position?

And BTW, you're now using the language of a climate change denier.

I thought climate change deniers don't change views.

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04-06-2014, 03:05 PM
RE: What's your gender?
(04-06-2014 03:02 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  Sorry, thought you guys would notice it before.

Yeah but we're dicks. Another gender for you to get you're head around Wink

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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