What to do with our military?
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08-11-2012, 02:06 PM
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RE: What to do with our military?
(06-11-2012 10:45 PM)Dark Light Wrote:One of the few instances in which I respect the living shit out of you. ;D(06-11-2012 12:36 PM)Diablo666 Wrote: They didn't sacrifice shit... Its just a job. Ohh wait maybe you are right! Now that I think about it, I sacrificed my weekend to do work this weekend!!!You are a fucking idiot. I have worked in warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, retail outlets, and I've served in the military. I can tell you right now, I sacrificed in the military. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I'm not here to post a sob story, and there have been plenty of others who sacraficed much more than I did, but if you beleive the military is just a regular job that doesn't require extraordinary dedication, and sacrafice then you are a fool. That is all. Occasional TTA returner then leaverer. |
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08-11-2012, 04:44 PM
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Re: RE: What to do with our military?
(06-11-2012 12:36 PM)Diablo666 Wrote:(04-11-2012 09:21 PM)Dark Light Wrote: For the record, only the Army lowered it's standardsThey didn't sacrifice shit... Its just a job. Ohh wait maybe you are right! Now that I think about it, I sacrificed my weekend to do work this weekend!!! You are a fucking idiot. Im guessing from other posts that you have no problem with all the entitlment programs we doll out, but could care less about people in uniform who actually earn a check and then some. Truth is we need to cut everything. And just so you're not as ignorant, every service member pays for their food, even the guys who live on base. The only time they dont in when they are in country and shitty out MREs. |
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08-11-2012, 09:56 PM
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RE: What to do with our military?
(08-11-2012 04:44 PM)TheBlackKnight Wrote:The whole defense budget is an entitlement program lol.(06-11-2012 12:36 PM)Diablo666 Wrote: They didn't sacrifice shit... Its just a job. Ohh wait maybe you are right! Now that I think about it, I sacrificed my weekend to do work this weekend!!!You are a fucking idiot. Im guessing from other posts that you have no problem with all the entitlment programs we doll out, but could care less about people in uniform who actually earn a check and then some. The only people who you could say arguably earns a check are the people at the bottom. The rest, not so much... And that is during war time. If we aren't at war, which we shouldn't be all the fucking time, then its just a straight up welfare system. You wouldn't even need to cut anything else if you cut Defense...Thats just how fucking bloated that budget is FFS. That is whats causing the debt! However, if you really wanted to you could also adopt the canadian health care system and that would save a shitload too. There is no point in even talking about cutting the other shit as its inconsequential. (Other than SS, but there isn't really any fix for that) Share your ignorance some more please. |
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08-11-2012, 09:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2012 10:03 PM by Diablo666.)
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RE: What to do with our military?
(06-11-2012 10:45 PM)Dark Light Wrote:How is it dedication when you are practically forced to do it? Is the prisoner dedicated? No...(06-11-2012 12:36 PM)Diablo666 Wrote: They didn't sacrifice shit... Its just a job. Ohh wait maybe you are right! Now that I think about it, I sacrificed my weekend to do work this weekend!!!You are a fucking idiot. I have worked in warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, retail outlets, and I've served in the military. I can tell you right now, I sacrificed in the military. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I'm not here to post a sob story, and there have been plenty of others who sacraficed much more than I did, but if you beleive the military is just a regular job that doesn't require extraordinary dedication, and sacrafice then you are a fool. That is all. You sacrifice only time. I sacrifice that at work too. So how are they different again? Did you not get to see your mommy for awhile? QQ! Lots of people move away from home, and don't get to see their mommy for months on end as well. Their job is to exercise, and mine is to be productive. One of these things seems worthwhile, and the other not so much...but I can't put my finger on it. |
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09-11-2012, 02:25 AM
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RE: What to do with our military?
(08-11-2012 09:59 PM)Diablo666 Wrote:Hmm...well I volenteered, and since we haven't had a draft since Vietnam, I'd say everyone else in the American military did as well. How's that?(06-11-2012 10:45 PM)Dark Light Wrote: You are a fucking idiot. I have worked in warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, retail outlets, and I've served in the military. I can tell you right now, I sacrificed in the military. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I'm not here to post a sob story, and there have been plenty of others who sacrificed much more than I did, but if you beleive the military is just a regular job that doesn't require extraordinary dedication, and sacrifice then you are a fool. That is all.How is it dedication when you are practically forced to do it? Is the prisoner dedicated? No... Yeah, I left my family. I left my wife. Men left pregnant women. Some never returned. People gave limbs, and some gave their life. Many gave their mental well-being. All gave up their safety, to go to a place that is absolute shit, going without proper meals, without proper beds, without proper toilets, without a home, without hearing the voice of the spouses and children. How many jobs require any of that? How many require you to sleep on a frozen concrete pad in the open wearing a bullet proof vest and with your arms wrapped around a rifle so an enemy will not kill you and your comrades with it? You think we all went over there for vacation? Nightmares keep me awake still, and I had it easy compared to what most had to endure. If you don't know what your talking about it's better to keep you mouth shut. You just look like a damn fool. I left with more men than I came back with, and even more survived by mere chance. You don't know what it means to be a man. I served with 17 year old men that has endured hardships which you can't even imagine. You're god damn right they sacrificed... |
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09-11-2012, 05:10 AM
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RE: What to do with our military?
The question is for what. What was it all for ? What exactly has it accomplished ?. No one says it wasn't hard.
In 2003 Robert McNamara said they had made a "terrible terrible" mistake, in sending 50,000 people to die in Viet-nam. What if they say they say the same thing in 40 years from now about Iraq and Afghanistan ? The reason the 911 terrorists were able to do what they did, is because US airport, and airline security was shit. Everyone knew it, and it was repeatedly stated on the news, the Summer before 9/11. The US is never going to be able to control what goes on in caves 1/2 a world away. The minute they leave, it falls apart, just like Iraq. We can't fix everything. Insufferable know-it-all. ![]() |
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09-11-2012, 10:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-11-2012 11:27 AM by Dark Light.)
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RE: What to do with our military?
(09-11-2012 05:10 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote: The question is for what. What was it all for ? What exactly has it accomplished ?. No one says it wasn't hard.Actually that is pretty much what Diablo is saying. No sacrifice = not hard. I don't disagree with anything else you have said (maybe I'd argue that the airport security is now out of control), in fact I am vocal about it myself, but that is not the topic at hand. |
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09-11-2012, 10:45 AM
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Re: RE: What to do with our military?
(08-11-2012 09:56 PM)Diablo666 Wrote:(08-11-2012 04:44 PM)TheBlackKnight Wrote: You are a fucking idiot. Im guessing from other posts that you have no problem with all the entitlment programs we doll out, but could care less about people in uniform who actually earn a check and then some.The whole defense budget is an entitlement program lol. Its ironic you accuse me of ignorance when it's pretty clear you have little understanding of any military,its purpose,how its works and what day to day operations are .With comments like"their job is to exercise", we can all also tell what little you think you know comes from movies and watching gay porn with your boyfriend. Of course the other issues wont be talked about, bc your not in favor of cutting those. |
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09-11-2012, 11:48 AM
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RE: What to do with our military?
Paintball.
MASSIVE paintball war in the Mojave. That would be fucking EPIC. E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2 614C → 714N + e– + ̅νe 2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol It works, bitches. |
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09-11-2012, 12:11 PM
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RE: What to do with our military?
I'm down! I'm not so sure about diablo, he'd prob be hiding.
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