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06-12-2011, 10:24 PM
What were you taught about wars in your classrooms? Bias for your country.
So here's basically what I was taught about the different wars as a child in an American classroom.


World War 2

-Germany was spreading uncontrollably across the world, a great evil unstoppable force. Then America, the sleeping giant, was awoken by Japan's biggest mistake, an attack on Pearl Harbor. So then America pushed Britain out of the way (they weren't doing anything anyways) and raided the beaches of Northern France and dropped the atomic bombs on Japan, swiftly defeating both countries and ending the war that no one else could stop. America is the hero of the world.

-Seriously. I didn't even know about Stalingrad or Russia's stand until I saw Enemy at the Gates when I was like 20. And there was no rational discussion about what might have caused the war (like the Treaty of Versailles), it was just "Nazis were the embodiment of pure evil and America the Pure stopped them."


Vietnam

-America pulled out of its own accord due to activists protesting at home. We didn't lose (America has never lost a war, to think otherwise is crazy and unpatriotic), we allowed the Vietcong to reclaim the land that we had clearly conquered because we realized the error of our ways and wanted to make amends.


Revolutionary War

-I was drinking in Scotland one day and got into a heated debate with a British guy about the Revolutionary War. Apparently his contention was that Britain won the war but allowed us Americans to separate from Britain because of the strain of maintaining things over such a great distance. He claimed that Canada was the part of America that we had already lost before Britain allowed us to keep the rest. I had never even considered once that we lost the war. What are they teaching you over there in Britain?


Civil War

-I'm just curious as to what they teach any of you in the South about the Civil War. The North accepts that the primary reason the south seceded was because Lincoln was about to abolish slavery, effectively bankrupting the cotton plantations; the driving force for the southern economies. Were any of you taught differently?



What were you taught in your country that you know to be one-sided bullsh!t?

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06-12-2011, 11:02 PM
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US student >.>

Native Americans - 5 years of school with the theory that when the British reached the America's they were helped by indians to not starve by getting great feasts, and that was that. The idea is that eventually the colonials offended the indians and we beat them fair and square =p yeah that was really said. Also when the story got a bit more real it was the Spanish who brought the plague with them, and the colonials only fought against the indians who were attacking them. That's right the colonials were purely defensive in this.

WWII - In a Japanese class I was informed of the wonderful fact that Japan attacked America as it was the only country with a sizable navy that might get in the way of their taking of China while Germany was taking care of Europe. another big thing about this one. Most American schools say that this war only became a world war when Japan attacked the US as if before then it was just a small regional one =p.

War was never a big thing for me so I don't remember too many of the old war tales. There are a lot though.

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06-12-2011, 11:17 PM
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I'd like to contribute but I was a naughty girl in school as I didn't give a crap and was more into giving most teachers the shits.
As my thirst for knowledge only started in my 30's I now know, which I am led to believe, the truth or is it fact??? Huh
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06-12-2011, 11:23 PM
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(06-12-2011 11:17 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  I'd like to contribute but I was a naughty girl in school as I didn't give a crap and was more into giving most teachers the shits.
As my thirst for knowledge only started in my 30's I now know, which I am led to believe, the truth or is it fact??? Huh
WTF

I can fill you in here. I'm quite well versed on Aussie war history. You see, first, in the not too distant future, a police officer named Max will have his family killed by bikers. He'll get really mad and kill them in his cool police cruiser. Then, there will be some sort of weird gasoline shortage and the mad policeman named Max will have to fight a bunch of bikers dressed like Oakland Raider fans. Lastly, nuclear war will strike, because Australia is feared for it's nuclear weapons, and Max will be forced to enter the Thunderdome where 2 men enter, one man leaves. That one man will be Max, and he will be forced once again to get into a vehicle and kill a bunch of punk rock bikers.

History doesn't end well for Max, however. He ends up going truly Mad.

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07-12-2011, 12:54 AM
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I was taught pretty much most of that bullshit.

I do wonder if anyone from the UK or other parts of Europe can comment on what they were taught about these conflicts or what wars in their part of the world they know/suspect to be painted in a light friendlier to their own country than reality would prove...

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07-12-2011, 01:36 AM
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(06-12-2011 11:23 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(06-12-2011 11:17 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  I'd like to contribute but I was a naughty girl in school as I didn't give a crap and was more into giving most teachers the shits.
As my thirst for knowledge only started in my 30's I now know, which I am led to believe, the truth or is it fact??? Huh
WTF

I can fill you in here. I'm quite well versed on Aussie war history. You see, first, in the not too distant future, a police officer named Max will have his family killed by bikers. He'll get really mad and kill them in his cool police cruiser. Then, there will be some sort of weird gasoline shortage and the mad policeman named Max will have to fight a bunch of bikers dressed like Oakland Raider fans. Lastly, nuclear war will strike, because Australia is feared for it's nuclear weapons, and Max will be forced to enter the Thunderdome where 2 men enter, one man leaves. That one man will be Max, and he will be forced once again to get into a vehicle and kill a bunch of punk rock bikers.

History doesn't end well for Max, however. He ends up going truly Mad.

Yeh, sorry Americans, for sending this fucked-up catholic douche-bag over to you. That wasn't very nice Sad
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07-12-2011, 01:42 AM
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(07-12-2011 01:36 AM)aurora2020 Wrote:  Yeh, sorry Americans, for sending this fucked-up catholic douche-bag over to you. That wasn't very nice Sad

We'd be quite willing to send him back.

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07-12-2011, 01:47 AM
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That, my friend, is a very generous offer of which we will unfortunately have to decline - the bastard was actually born in the states apparently. Came here when very young. Soooooooo sorry
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07-12-2011, 01:53 AM
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(07-12-2011 01:47 AM)aurora2020 Wrote:  That, my friend, is a very generous offer of which we will unfortunately have to decline - the bastard was actually born in the states apparently. Came here when very young. Soooooooo sorry

I'm a bit naive. Was that sarcasm?
But no really. I think HoC would be willing to escort Max when he comes to visit you with Gwynnies.

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07-12-2011, 06:32 AM
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I didn't have those problems in my school, we were learning normal world history, the real events how they happened. I know a lot about WW2 from my school, about USA, Japan, Germany, Russia and of course the involvement of Yugoslavia in all of this, but they have shorted facts about Yugoslavia and it was mentioned as lees as it was possible after Croatia gained independence from Yugoslavia. I find the fact about the USA as " a sleeping giant" funny because USA didn't have any navy, not compared to Japan and Britain until the Pearl Harbor. Then they have started to produce their navy and only a couple of months later when first new ships were made, did the USA truly become a giant in a military sense. But to teach kids that WW2 has started when USA entered the war is just wrong. So for your teacher the Japan-China (almost whole Asia), whole Europe, Russia and north Africa is all just a regional conflict? Great, can I visit that small region? Big Grin

Luckily for you, now you have Internet and all sorts of documentaries about WW2, so you can learn on your own, when your teachers are dumb and ignorant. Or they were just lying to you on purpose? I think that was the case here. It's all a conspiracy to keep you dumb and ignorant, but very patriotic.

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