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10-09-2014, 02:35 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
(10-09-2014 02:28 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 02:22 PM)doctorstrange247 Wrote:  yes the dog is dead it doesn't care, and the person who beat it to death wouldn't care when he eventually dies.

It did care when it was being beaten. That is as real as anything later. You're assuming something is real ONLY if it lasts forever. It's real when it's real.

i agree, it is real when it is real but it matters when it lasts forever, i am not taking a stand point for its relevance in relation to the current existing persons but its relevance to the person that seize to exist, the achievements of a scientist is all well and good for the people benefiting from his discoveries but how does it benefit him when he is already dead and non existent
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10-09-2014, 02:40 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
It doesn't.
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10-09-2014, 02:40 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
(10-09-2014 02:35 PM)doctorstrange247 Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 02:28 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  It did care when it was being beaten. That is as real as anything later. You're assuming something is real ONLY if it lasts forever. It's real when it's real.

i agree, it is real when it is real but it matters when it lasts forever, i am not taking a stand point for its relevance in relation to the current existing persons but its relevance to the person that seize to exist, the achievements of a scientist is all well and good for the people benefiting from his discoveries but how does it benefit him when he is already dead and non existent

It's "cease" to exist. They don't "benefit" him. So what ? It's not important. He did what he did, for the reasons he did. The quality of his life is what it was. YOU are applying YOUR meanings to someone you didn't know. It matters. Lasting forever is YOUR (learned) value judgement (opinion) that he may or may not have shared.
You don't get to invent gods and immortality because they make you feel good. You're argument is like saying "I need Santa to be real, or screw it". Grow up.

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10-09-2014, 02:42 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
(10-09-2014 02:28 PM)doctorstrange247 Wrote:  why do you say so?

Because you're just saying "I don't like this view, so it must be wrong. I like this view, however, so it must be right". This is not an argument. It is denialism.

The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
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10-09-2014, 02:58 PM
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10-09-2014, 03:37 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
(07-09-2014 12:28 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  ---
For if it is true that God doesn't exist wouldn't it mean we get wiped out of existence at the point of death
As others have already said, we do get wiped out of existence at the point of death.
Is that a problem?

(10-09-2014 02:35 PM)doctorstrange247 Wrote:  ----
... the achievements of a scientist is all well and good for the people benefiting from his discoveries but how does it benefit him when he is already dead and non existent ?

It doesn't benefit him - he's dead.
Is that a problem?
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Everyone ceases to exist at some point. There is no future for you specifically but, there is future for the species you contribute to. If something "matters", do it now. Make your contribution to the future, now. Live now. You don't get another chance.

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10-09-2014, 03:56 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
It is if your brain is programmed to think "reward" (doggy treat) is all that matters.

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10-09-2014, 04:20 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
(10-09-2014 03:56 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  It is if your brain is programmed to think "reward" (doggy treat) is all that matters.

so you belive we are basically animals acting on instinct
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10-09-2014, 04:21 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
(10-09-2014 03:37 PM)kim Wrote:  
(07-09-2014 12:28 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  ---
For if it is true that God doesn't exist wouldn't it mean we get wiped out of existence at the point of death
As others have already said, we do get wiped out of existence at the point of death.
Is that a problem?

(10-09-2014 02:35 PM)doctorstrange247 Wrote:  ----
... the achievements of a scientist is all well and good for the people benefiting from his discoveries but how does it benefit him when he is already dead and non existent ?

It doesn't benefit him - he's dead.
Is that a problem?
***

Everyone ceases to exist at some point. There is no future for you specifically but, there is future for the species you contribute to. If something "matters", do it now. Make your contribution to the future, now. Live now. You don't get another chance.

Is this so difficult to comprehend? Shy

can life give meaning to itself?
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10-09-2014, 04:25 PM
RE: What will be the point of discussing God's existence if he actually doesn't exit
(10-09-2014 04:21 PM)doctorstrange247 Wrote:  can life give meaning to itself?

Yes. In fact, only life can give meaning to life.

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