When does life begin?

[Flowergurl]

(01-10-2014 12:25 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  The majority ( > 50 %) of fertilized human eggs spontaneously abort. I guess for religionists, that would make the gods the most prolific abortionists. (Marvelously "designed" are we ?)

Haha this made my day!!

[Chas]

(03-10-2014 11:57 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Your friend is right. The sperm is alive before it meets the egg, or else it could not swim. The egg is alive because if it were not, the sperm could not fertilize the egg.

Having said that it is none of your business what that girl/woman does. It is her body not yours, and you are not going to raise that kid.

It is that simple.

No, it's not.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Before conception, since the cells that are involved in conception are themselves organic. They sure as hell ain't sacred though.

[Chas]

(05-10-2014 10:24 AM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Before conception, since the cells that are involved in conception are themselves organic. They sure as hell ain't sacred though.

That seems arbitrary. Why not before the conception of the parents? Or their parents? Or their ...

Back to the first cell. Or before.

But I don't think that's what the OP was asking.

Maybe the OP would like to clarify what he is asking.

[Chas]

(01-10-2014 10:08 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  Sorry for my English
Hello everyone, creationist here. Please answer this question. When does human life begin?
1 Before conception.
2 At conception.
3 After it is legal for a woman to have an abortion.

Btw this question has nothing to do with abortion debate in US. I'm having a discussion at a local forum with an atheist and he says that life begins before conception which sounds strange to me

It's not entirely clear what you are asking. What do you mean by begin?

Ethically? Legally? Morally? Actually?

[Tartarus Sauce]

(05-10-2014 11:24 AM)Chas Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 10:24 AM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Before conception, since the cells that are involved in conception are themselves organic. They sure as hell ain't sacred though.

That seems arbitrary. Why not before the conception of the parents? Or their parents? Or their ...

Back to the first cell. Or before.

But I don't think that's what the OP was asking.

Maybe the OP would like to clarify what he is asking.

I never said an individual's life begins before conception, just that life is around before you are, including life that will eventually constitute you, the most immediately predating life being the sperm and egg you develop from.

[dimaniac]

(05-10-2014 11:25 AM)Chas Wrote:  Ethically? Legally? Morally? Actually?

Logically

[Chas]

(05-10-2014 04:01 PM)dimaniac Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 11:25 AM)Chas Wrote:  Ethically? Legally? Morally? Actually?

Logically

Clarify "life begin" - it is too vague.

However, I'll take a stab at it. Two, actually.

Life began once. Everything alive today came from living things which came from living things which ... which came from the first living thing about 3.5 billion years ago.

Or, if you mean when does a new human being come into existence, then that would not be until a fetus has a brain and nervous system.

[The Watchman]

OK dimaniac ..... just a little back ground info .....

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f20/h...one-71358/

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.ph...&p=6109753

http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-...heism.html

http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-...nyone.html

check out dates and times of posts ...

there are probably more ... but I can't be bothered to chase any further ...

somebody has been a busy little boy .... time to go I think ... but that is for the Forum to decide .