When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
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09-09-2014, 09:37 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_ekaflcqq/

There is the link to the video. It is graphic.

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09-09-2014, 09:39 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
(09-09-2014 09:35 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(09-09-2014 09:33 AM)wazzel Wrote:  That is not what the arresting officer reported. I added a link to the police department statement in my previous post..

Yes the initial story was different but the video evidence trumps eye witness testimony.

Their statement was based on video evidence not witness testimony. They had footage of the knock out punch show up a few days later, which is why his got upgraded to aggrieved assault.
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09-09-2014, 09:40 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
(09-09-2014 09:37 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  
(09-09-2014 09:26 AM)wazzel Wrote:  Not defending Rice, but remember she was arrested and charged with simple battery also.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bal-r...5.htmlpage

Sounds like a very toxic relationship honestly. Both sides.

Yes it does.
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09-09-2014, 09:50 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
(09-09-2014 09:37 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_ekaflcqq/

There is the link to the video. It is graphic.

The TMZ video is only a portion of what the police had.

Quote:ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — Ray Rice and Janay Palmer can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit in the face of the three-time Pro Bowl running back right before he throws a brutal punch in a video shown to The Associated Press by a law enforcement official.

The video, shown to the AP Monday night, includes audio and is longer than the grainy TMZ Sports video released earlier that day. After the TMZ video made its way around the Internet, the Baltimore Ravens cut Rice and the league suspended him indefinitely. Rice was originally suspended for two games and coaches and others had praised his behavior since the arrest for striking his then-fiancee in February.

The videos show Rice and Palmer in an elevator at an Atlantic City casino. Each hits the other before Rice knocks Palmer off her feet and into a railing. Months ago, a TMZ video showed Rice dragging Palmer, now his wife, from the elevator at the Revel casino, which closed on Sept. 2.

The higher-quality video shown to the AP shows Rice made no attempt to cover up the incident. After Palmer collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, “She’s drunk, right?” And then, “No cops.” But Rice didn’t respond.

The video was shown to the AP on condition of anonymity because the official isn’t authorized to release it....................

http://krqe.com/2014/09/09/longer-rice-v...-spitting/

Again, just to make sure no one misunderstands, I am not defending Rice or his actions.
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09-09-2014, 10:18 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
Reasonable force...

I think anyone should have the right to defend themselves against violence... Male or female.

But your defence should be measured against the threat you face... Battering someone half to death in retaliation to a bloody nose is excessive force.

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09-09-2014, 10:28 AM
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I'm wondering why this topic is posted under the heading of politics?
Seems odd to me.

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09-09-2014, 10:32 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
(09-09-2014 10:28 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  I'm wondering why this topic is posted under the heading of politics?
Seems odd to me.
I could not figure where else it would fit.
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09-09-2014, 10:38 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
(09-09-2014 10:18 AM)Sam Wrote:  Reasonable force...

I think anyone should have the right to defend themselves against violence... Male or female.

But your defence should be measured against the threat you face... Battering someone half to death in retaliation to a bloody nose is excessive force.
Agreed. IMO a smaller aggressor can be dealt with without beating them senseless, most of the time.
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09-09-2014, 10:51 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
If men- in general- had been taught 100s of years ago that hitting a woman is NOT ok....think of the equality women would have today.(?)
But since there are always excuses and explanations and forever hair-splitting stories the beatings continue.
This should have ended centuries ago.
And yet it is STILL a discussion, a topic, an interest and a social norm for many.....even a cultural influence.

*Sigh*
Some things just shake my faith in human evolution.

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09-09-2014, 11:07 AM
RE: When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?
(09-09-2014 10:51 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  If men- in general- had been taught 100s of years ago that hitting a woman is NOT ok....think of the equality women would have today.(?)
But since there are always excuses and explanations and forever hair-splitting stories the beatings continue.
This should have ended centuries ago.
And yet it is STILL a discussion, a topic, an interest and a social norm for many.....even a cultural influence.

*Sigh*
Some things just shake my faith in human evolution.

I'm not sure trying to teach them would make any difference. Sort of like saying you have to teach men not to rape.

Some men (and women) are just violent assholes and would figure this shit out on their own one way or another.
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