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24-05-2012, 08:37 AM
RE: Where's the Evidence??
I am no scientist, I have a basic understanding of many things and to be honest this isn't necessarily one of them. However I have a question for you, assuming this complexity cannot be explained. How do you know it won't be explained by science in the future (which would be a safe assumption considering their past track record) and if it is a higher power, how do we know its your specific god and not the god of the muslims, hindus, etc.

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25-05-2012, 04:04 AM
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Do not worry, not a single theist can answer that. They will all start this by saying how they believe and how they feel and so on... They simply can not grasp the concept of "do not know now, but will try to find out in the future". It has to be explained now, while we are having a debate, or we are all retarded.

Fuck it, just ignore them, maybe they will go away.

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25-05-2012, 04:24 AM
RE: Where's the Evidence??
(25-05-2012 04:04 AM)Filox Wrote:  Do not worry, not a single theist can answer that. They will all start this by saying how they believe and how they feel and so on... They simply can not grasp the concept of "do not know now, but will try to find out in the future". It has to be explained now, while we are having a debate, or we are all retarded.

Fuck it, just ignore them, maybe they will go away.

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"do not know now, but will try to find out in the future" isn't that what makes science so facinating? I love that shit... the ability to understand that we dont' have all the answers now.. and why should we? We are still evolving. Still learning. We are striving to understand the REAL answers.. and not just take the simple route of saying.. "It was God's glory"
The fact that we strive to answer the questions of where did we come from.. what started the universe .. and where is the future taking us.. that is far more glorious.. and amazing than simply taking the simple and lazy route of .. "must have faith for his glory".. fuck him and his glory. Amen. Tongue

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25-05-2012, 04:44 AM
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Amen brother, amen...

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30-05-2012, 09:55 AM
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The OP is quite silent.

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30-05-2012, 01:08 PM
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Pity Sad I woulda liked to see the doc in action.
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30-05-2012, 04:32 PM
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The conversation continues here: http://theskepticalzone.com/wp/?p=659
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30-05-2012, 10:13 PM
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(30-05-2012 04:32 PM)Eppur Si Muove Wrote:  The conversation continues here: http://theskepticalzone.com/wp/?p=659
I'd hate to be in the shoes of "Upright Biped"... not because his argument was shot down (although it was) but because there are simply too many people to answer and so little help. I've been in that position. It sucks.

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31-05-2012, 02:45 AM
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This guy is just too bizarre and too much focused on philosophy instead on bio-genetics, so, who cares what he says anymore. When I went full philosophy on his ass, he just ignored my questions, because he did not like what I was implying. Now he thinks he can manipulate his words into discrediting Dr Liddle? I think not.

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22-06-2012, 05:23 AM (This post was last modified: 22-06-2012 06:57 AM by fstratzero.)
RE: Where's the Evidence??
I have to answer Upright Biped....

But first I have to say, he's right other than, g bonds to c and a to t, the order of the pairing of the nucleotides is not static. Which is consistent with a system that allows for change over time. eg Evolution.

Quote:This all raises a very important question; how did these very special sequences come to exist?

This is really the question, the rest is extra. The origins of the sequences of dna that allow for life. Which I'll try to see if any information exists on the subject.

I remember c0c0rdance saying the key lies in rna and lipids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDp6tZ448-g&feature=plcp 8:52 is where c0c0rdance gives an overview.

PS: Even if the op vanished, this question is awesome. I'm researching and learning some exciting things!

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