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24-02-2014, 09:52 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  I will dismiss you as a pretender/clown like mocking bird is... just a hate filled biggot with no provaunaunce behind what he alledges. your the atheist version of the westburrow baptist (the god hates fags people.)

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*alleges

*You're (you + are = "you're")

*Westboro


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24-02-2014, 10:13 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 09:38 AM)toadaly Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 07:04 AM)Drich Wrote:  incorrect. Few will argue that durning the dark ages 'control' of the world was obtained by suppressing knowledge of the bible. It was translated into a dead language and kept there for well over a 1000 years. It wasn't till the bible was translated and printed in mass did we finally free ourselves from the very control you think the bible brings.

The Vulgate was written in the 4th century, at a time when Latin was in wide spread use. There is no sense in which it was translated into a dead language. It most certainly is propaganda used for control. But just as today, when most Christians, yourself included, have never even actually read it, its power lies in the authority people give it, and less so in the actual words. Much of it is mind numbingly boring and filled with abject nonsense you never here on the mornings of Sun worship.

The priest class has always maintained its control simply by waving the book around, and telling people what it says - knowing that the masses are too dull to challenge them ....the exact same thing that still happens today. Then they tell people like you what to go read, and you dutifully obey, reading just the snippets you've been directed to read, completely ignorant of the history of Judaism or even of your own religion, and why the Bible contains what it contains.

A good portion of those who really sit down and just read it, lose faith. Why do you think we've been encouraging you to do that?

I've been reading and studying this book for a very long time. What makes you think i haven't read it? Why do you think i can use it to break your arguements based on it's precepts?

seriously. I know you guys write/say I don't know what I am talking about, but don't tell me you seriously believe it..Laugh out load what did you think I just get lucky each and everytime?

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24-02-2014, 10:14 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  And if you really and honestly look around alot of the voices here are begining to quite down as well.

Because facts and reason are to you as water to a duck's back, and most people aren't sadistic enough to keep banging their heads against brick walls?

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  You know.. trivializing the indivisual may work in the intelectually dishonest circles you normally play in, but here i will call your bluff, and force you to answer yo a high standard.

Huh. You know, one might be inclined to say exactly the same thing to you, with regards to, say, oh, literally anything to do with any sort of science whatsoever.

So there's that.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  Easily remedied with some help from Merrium webster.

Why is that self-satisfied idiots seem to really love quoting definitions as though that were in any way meaningful?

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  Jesus is the most documented person of that time period.

Fucking really?

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24-02-2014, 10:14 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 09:52 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  I will dismiss you as a pretender/clown like mocking bird is... just a hate filled biggot with no provaunaunce behind what he alledges. your the atheist version of the westburrow baptist (the god hates fags people.)

*bigot

*provenance

*alleges

*You're (you + are = "you're")

*Westboro


Your pathetic claims of "dismissing" me are only your sad and desperate attempts to avoid, ignore, and deflect from the fact that I utterly destroy you and your inane bullshit with every post.

Quote:It's been my experience that those who can do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't even teach grade papers. Which one do you seem to be?

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24-02-2014, 10:16 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 10:13 AM)Drich Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 09:38 AM)toadaly Wrote:  The Vulgate was written in the 4th century, at a time when Latin was in wide spread use. There is no sense in which it was translated into a dead language. It most certainly is propaganda used for control. But just as today, when most Christians, yourself included, have never even actually read it, its power lies in the authority people give it, and less so in the actual words. Much of it is mind numbingly boring and filled with abject nonsense you never here on the mornings of Sun worship.

The priest class has always maintained its control simply by waving the book around, and telling people what it says - knowing that the masses are too dull to challenge them ....the exact same thing that still happens today. Then they tell people like you what to go read, and you dutifully obey, reading just the snippets you've been directed to read, completely ignorant of the history of Judaism or even of your own religion, and why the Bible contains what it contains.

A good portion of those who really sit down and just read it, lose faith. Why do you think we've been encouraging you to do that?

I've been reading and studying this book for a very long time. What makes you think i haven't read it? Why do you think i can use it to break your arguements based on it's precepts?

seriously. I know you guys write/say I don't know what I am talking about, but don't tell me you seriously believe it..Laugh out load what did you think I just get lucky each and everytime?

Kestrel has already pointed out several of your failures wrt your fairy tale book, which you have yet to demonstrate is anything more than a fairy tale book.



(24-02-2014 10:14 AM)Drich Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 09:52 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  *bigot

*provenance

*alleges

*You're (you + are = "you're")

*Westboro


Your pathetic claims of "dismissing" me are only your sad and desperate attempts to avoid, ignore, and deflect from the fact that I utterly destroy you and your inane bullshit with every post.

Quote:It's been my experience that those who can do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't even teach grade papers. Which one do you seem to be?

You did not submit a paper, and I am not grading a paper. I am pointing out what a fucking idiot you are. Again.

Your failure to avoid the point I made above is noted.

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24-02-2014, 10:25 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 10:13 AM)Drich Wrote:  seriously. I know you guys write/say I don't know what I am talking about, but don't tell me you seriously believe it..Laugh out load what did you think I just get lucky each and everytime?

Don't hurt your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

And don't forget that most people here think for themselves. All the anonymous users and silent lurkers are going to read all the arguments and decide for themselves, no matter how loudly you declare victory. Bummer, huh? I hope 'biblegateway.com' and 'everybodylovesjesus.com' and 'thebibleisalwaysright.com' are credible enough sources to sway those on the fence. They weren't for me. It was a few theists just like you that ended up giving me that final push over to atheism. I wanted to believe and I wanted good answers; problem was, you guys just don't have them. You don't debate well. I started to wonder... what kind of person quotes the bible, doesn't speak the old languages, has no degree in theology, dismisses history, and disregards other religions with the same arguments that are used to disregard his own, all while claiming superiority as a self-labeled 'expert'?

An idiot.

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24-02-2014, 10:47 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 10:13 AM)Drich Wrote:  seriously. I know you guys write/say I don't know what I am talking about, but don't tell me you seriously believe it..Laugh out load what did you think I just get lucky each and everytime?
Lucky? Don't tell me you seriously believe that. Laugh out load
Um, here's some news... luck hasn't been working for you. And it's a shame because, without real knowledge, you could really use some luck. Drinking Beverage

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24-02-2014, 11:02 AM (This post was last modified: 24-02-2014 03:58 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  It's been my experience that those who can do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't even teach grade papers. Which one do you seem to be? Consider

Nice try. Irrelevant. It's my experience that those who can't use the language at any better than the Third Grade can be DISMISSED as having the wisdom and education of a Third Grader. You are an insult to Third Graders.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  Proof? or am I just to take your word?

Exactly. YOU have proven nothing. Why should anyone else do that, if you haven't ? If THAT is your standard, YOU have a LONG way to go here.
You are talking about mythical being (your god) and it's mythical "son". You have not provided a shred of proof for either one. If, all of a sudden "proof" is your standard, the leat you could be is honest enough to meet your own standard, you lying troll.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  I've been able to answer all the questions posed at AF In the Christianity section of the website. there maybe 6 new posts in the last 2 weeks. And if you really and honestly look around alot of the voices here are beginning to quite down as well.

You've answered NOTHING anywhere. People stoped asking questions when they realize you are a deluded fool, with no answers to anything. You're the laughing stock of two forums now. Congratulations. The silence is a measure of you idiocy. Don't delude yourself, oh deluded one.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  lol: AHHH, no. If Paul had one big church apart from everyone else then were is his book of rules? he was a pharisee surly he would have seen the value in puting every one under one big set of rules.. That way they would be easier to mannage.

More proof you know nothing of the period. Paul didn't need a "book of rules" as he was THE FIRST writer, you dumb ass. And YOU again refute yourself by bringing up a sect of Jews, you asserted had no sects. "Where was his book of rules ?" LMFAO. What an idiot.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  Did he do this? again no. Look at the content of each one of his epsitles, each one is tailored to a specific and unique set of problems. Why? because as He says in Acts He approaches each group of people according to their own set of strengths and weaknesses based on what They Think worship of God to be like, so long as it did not contradict What Paul knew to be the absolutes of the faith.
Sorry buckster your flat out wrong here. If you wish I can provide BCV, but will only do so if you can provide a grounded fact based counter arguement. (no more empty claims, if I am to look stuff up so to will you.)

Nope go ahead. Let's see your bullshit in action. What is a epsitle ? (Oh you meant "epistle"). The fact the letters are different in no way means they believed different things, (or according to your idiotic theory "worshiped differently").

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  You know buckster when you go into these big long hate rants and I provide you with Evidence to counter your rants, it make you look stupid. If you don't want to be made to look stupid you could just ask a follow up, and I promise to answer your question without the added flare I am currently using that makes you look stupid.

You've never provided ONE proof of anything. Ever. Not once. A link to a biased site is proof of nothing. You using "added flare" ? LOL. What a narcissistic fool.
There is a name for the mental disorder you demonstrate : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%...ger_effect

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  You've got a couple of different things going on here in this rant. There seems to be at least 3 points your trying to make, none of which you seem to be doing very well.
Do you want to maybe try again?

Nope You obviously can't even BEGIN to answer them.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  Ya huh he does.

That's about the level of your discourse.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  Where did i say this?

It's what your entire fucking idiot post was about. You can't even recognize your own argument.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  I said 'most of the time' didn't I? Most means not all. Tongue

Slimey bastard. Can't answer the point, so you try to evade it.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  You know.. trivializing the indivisual may work in the intelectually dishonest circles you normally play in, but here i will call your bluff, and force you to answer yo a high standard. If we look at your paragraph we can classify your work into only two different catagories. One: personal insult:

Your bullshit trivializes itself. It's all crap. Your nonsense deserves no other response.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  (which is ironic because this describes the body of your work here so far.. minus the piety)

You haven't even seen the "body of my work" here, or know how to find it.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  secondly, taking ancient language literally proves you know nothing about the Bible.

Nice try. You at least have to know how to read it, which clearly you don't.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  Without something to support this statement with, your whole paragraph can be dismissed as personal feeling or even a dishonest attempt to undermind my work. So buck, the balls back in your court. Can you provide any proof to your claim that I am taking everything literally?

You supported NOTHING. Support is NOT your standard, therefore NO ONE else has to provide any either

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  ah, your trying to spit hairs to dismiss what I said. Easily remedied with some help from Merrium webster.

Maybe you should learn how to spell the name of the fucking book, if you're going to reference it. You talking about dictionaries .... Hahahaha. The mother of all misspellers talking about dictionaries ? You are a total joke.

You fucking idiot,. YOU said "forms of WORSHIP", not forms of belief. You don't even understand your own idiot argument. You haven't "taken apart an argument in your pathetic life, nor would you even know where to begin. But DO keep it up, and keep making a complete fool of yourself and your cult. If you're going to use the word "embarrassing" maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell the damn word. I see you can provide NOT ONE piece of documentation that Jebus existed, and indeed are not even conversant with the debate. Proof is NOT your standard, thus no one has to even try until YOU start. Good luck with that. In idiot asserting shit, is proof of nothing.

(24-02-2014 09:36 AM)Drich Wrote:  I have spent the last 15/20 years studying this stuff with some pretty smart guys.

Obviously you totally wasted your time. You are THE dumbest theist EVER to show up here. You keep asserting your success, which is nothing but failure.

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24-02-2014, 11:02 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 10:14 AM)cjlr Wrote:  Because facts and reason are to you as water to a duck's back, and most people aren't sadistic enough to keep banging their heads against brick walls?
Then it should be easy for you to show me a an instance where logic and reason was employed but completely ignored.

Quote:Huh. You know, one might be inclined to say exactly the same thing to you, with regards to, say, oh, literally anything to do with any sort of science whatsoever.

So there's that.
Then challenge to site reference material as I have done you, then lets see what happens.

Quote:Why is that self-satisfied idiots seem to really love quoting definitions as though that were in any way meaningful?
omg Laugh out load Too funny.
If you seriously do not know; It is to break the fallacy of Equivocation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation

The too funny part is your expressed desire to remain in a perpetual state of ignorance so you do not have to 'think' for yourself.

Quote:Fucking really?

Most document does not mean who has the bigger wiki page so, uh.. Yeah!

I was refering to primary source material not the terschiary commentary found on wiki.. You know ORGINAL MANUSCRIPTS!

http://carm.org/manuscript-evidence.. I cant seem to find anything written on your boy Augustus.
without it your trying to compare apples to used apple flavored chewing gum. let me know when you get some real apples.

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24-02-2014, 11:03 AM
RE: Which version of Christianity is the right one?
(24-02-2014 10:47 AM)Impulse Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 10:13 AM)Drich Wrote:  seriously. I know you guys write/say I don't know what I am talking about, but don't tell me you seriously believe it..Laugh out load what did you think I just get lucky each and everytime?
Lucky? Don't tell me you seriously believe that. Laugh out load
Um, here's some news... luck hasn't been working for you. And it's a shame because, without real knowledge, you could really use some luck. Drinking Beverage

There is a spot open in the boxing ring if you care to back up your belief.

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