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22-05-2014, 10:14 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 09:56 PM)lone_white_man Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 09:51 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins agreed with Edwards' view and summarized it as "However small the racial partition of the total variation may be, if such racial characteristics as there are highly correlate with other racial characteristics, they are by definition informative, and therefore of taxonomic significance." Dawkins also wrote of Lewontin that he is "known for the strength of his political convictions and his weakness for dragging them into science at every possible opportunity."[4] Neven Sesardic has argued that, unbeknownst to Edwards, Jeffry B. Mitton already made the same argument about Lewontin's claim in two articles published in The American Naturalist in the late 1970s.[10][11][12]

Philosophers Jonathan Kaplan and Rasmus Winther have argued that while Edwards's argument is correct it does not invalidate Lewontin's original argument, because racial groups being genetically distinct on average does not mean that racial groups are the most basic biological divisions of the world's population. Nor does it mean that races are not social constructs as is the prevailing view among anthropologists and social scientists, because the particular genetic differences that correspond to races only become salient when racial categories take on social importance. From this sociological perspective, Edwards and Lewontin are therefore both correct.[13][14][15]

Similarly, biological anthropologist Jonathan Marks agrees with Edwards that correlations between geographical areas and genetics obviously exist in human populations, but goes on to note that "What is unclear is what this has to do with 'race' as that term has been used through much in the twentieth century - the mere fact that we can find groups to be different and can reliably allot people to them is trivial. Again, the point of the theory of race was to discover large clusters of people that are principally homogeneous within and heterogeneous between, contrasting groups. Lewontin's analysis shows that such groups do not exist in the human species, and Edwards' critique does not contradict that interpretation."[6]

The view that while geographic clustering of biological traits does exist this does not lend biological validity to racial groups was proposed by several evolutionary anthropologists and geneticists prior to the publication of Edwards critique of Lewontin.[7][16][17][18][19]

In the 2007 paper "Genetic Similarities Within and Between Human Populations",[20] Witherspoon et al. attempt to answer the question, "How often is a pair of individuals from one population genetically more dissimilar than two individuals chosen from two different populations?". The answer depends on the number of polymorphisms used to define that dissimilarity, and the populations being compared. When they analysed three geographically distinct populations (European, African and East Asian) and measured genetic similarity over many thousands of loci, the answer to their question was "never". However, measuring similarity using smaller numbers of loci yielded substantial overlap between these populations. Rates of between-population similarity also increased when geographically intermediate and admixed populations were included in the analysis.[20]

Witherspoon et al. conclude that, "Since an individual's geographic ancestry can often be inferred from his or her genetic makeup, knowledge of one's population of origin should allow some inferences about individual genotypes. To the extent that phenotypically important genetic variation resembles the variation studied here, we may extrapolate from genotypic to phenotypic patterns. [...] However, the typical frequencies of alleles responsible for common complex diseases remain unknown. The fact that, given enough genetic data, individuals can be correctly assigned to their populations of origin is compatible with the observation that most human genetic variation is found within populations, not between them. It is also compatible with our finding that, even when the most distinct populations are considered and hundreds of loci are used, individuals are frequently more similar to members of other populations than to members of their own population. Thus, caution should be used when using geographic or genetic ancestry to make inferences about individual phenotypes",[20] and warn that, "A final complication arises when racial classifications are used as proxies for geographic ancestry. Although many concepts of race are correlated with geographic ancestry, the two are not interchangeable, and relying on racial classifications will reduce predictive power still further."



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You can use Wikipedia! Good for you. But you have no idea what you're dealing with here, cretin.

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22-05-2014, 10:23 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 10:11 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 09:56 PM)lone_white_man Wrote:  You can use Wikipedia! Good for you. But you have no idea what you're dealing with here, cretin.

I will ruin you.

What type of half-assed, White-supremacist are you? A Jewboy steps all over your holy whiteness, then a black guy states his intention to mate with a white woman, and you don't bat an eyelash for either. A fellow Aryan implies you are an idiot and you start foaming at the mouth.

I've met tree-loving hippies more racist than you.

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22-05-2014, 10:42 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 10:23 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 10:11 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  What type of half-assed, White-supremacist are you? A Jewboy steps all over your holy whiteness, then a black guy states his intention to mate with a white woman, and you don't bat an eyelash for either. A fellow Aryan implies you are an idiot and you start foaming at the mouth.

I've met tree-loving hippies more racist than you.

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I mean, does this guy keep expecting people to believe he's anything other than a troll? White supremacists are supposed to be all "whites are number 1," but this little pipsqueak has been letting Jewboy and BlackDude toss his white pride around like the prison bitch and he hasn't so much as protested. Meanwhile, he doesn't seem that eager to help his poor little lost white lambs who have strayed away from the herd cuz some Evil Jew put them under a spell. Nay, in fact he seems to be hellbent on drowning you poor little white lambs.

White supremacist my ass.

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22-05-2014, 10:49 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 10:42 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 10:23 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Thanks Tarty! Thumbsup

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I mean, does this guy keep expecting people to believe he's anything other than a troll? White supremacists are supposed to be all "whites are number 1," but this little pipsqueak has been letting Jewboy and BlackDude toss his white pride around like the prison bitch and he hasn't so much as protested. Meanwhile, he doesn't seem that eager to help his poor little lost white lambs who have strayed away from the herd cuz some Evil Jew put them under a spell. Nay, in fact he seems to be hellbent on drowning you poor little white lambs.

White supremacist my ass.

I never claimed to be a "supremacist", you twerp. I am a separatist.
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22-05-2014, 10:50 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 04:47 AM)Monster_Riffs Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 04:32 AM)John Wrote:  When not specified, assume it's the only country. Murika. Dodgy

Hey John, lone_wolf_man thinks this is a documentary




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22-05-2014, 10:50 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 09:44 PM)lone_white_man Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 09:30 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  There is no difference between the races, except a very very very few genes. Humans share almost all of their DNA. (99.5 % +)

You are quite ignorant of how genetic variation and heritability works.

(22-05-2014 09:30 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Humans also share a vast % of their genes with other primates.

Yes, and we're still quite different from other such primates.

You've defeated yourself.

Nope idiot, I didn't. Ya know, some people are just so fucking stupid, they are incompatible with life. You may not be THE worst fool ever to happen upon this site, but you are among the top 5. There is no "white race". "Caucasian" is not a "race". How the fuck does the amount of melanin pigment (determined by some genes) in someone's skin have anything to do with anything. You are obsessed with a nothing. Please keep it up. AT least you'll be safely engaged away from anything important.

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22-05-2014, 10:54 PM
White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 10:49 PM)lone_white_man Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 10:42 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  I mean, does this guy keep expecting people to believe he's anything other than a troll? White supremacists are supposed to be all "whites are number 1," but this little pipsqueak has been letting Jewboy and BlackDude toss his white pride around like the prison bitch and he hasn't so much as protested. Meanwhile, he doesn't seem that eager to help his poor little lost white lambs who have strayed away from the herd cuz some Evil Jew put them under a spell. Nay, in fact he seems to be hellbent on drowning you poor little white lambs.

White supremacist my ass.

I never claimed to be a "supremacist", you twerp. I am a separatist.

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22-05-2014, 10:59 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 10:49 PM)lone_white_man Wrote:  I never claimed to be a "supremacist", you twerp. I am a separatist.

Is Matt Heimbach your idol?

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22-05-2014, 11:05 PM
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
What EXACTLY qualifies as "white" ?

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22-05-2014, 11:16 PM (This post was last modified: 22-05-2014 11:21 PM by Chas.)
RE: White Genocide is happening. ADMIT IT.
(22-05-2014 09:40 PM)lone_white_man Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 09:30 PM)Chas Wrote:  Besides which, the variation between races is less than the variation within a race.

Race is a shallow concept without any real genetic meaning.

*Lewontin's Fallacy*

No, I am not making Lewontin's argument. Reproductively isolated populations of humans will differ from each other in many small ways due to different mutations and, more importantly, by genetic drift. Some of these we have termed 'races'.

The differences among these groups is not sufficient to be terribly meaningful. Cultural differences outweigh genetic ones in importance.

I can tell the difference between Scots and Italians. Are they different races? How about Swedes and Spaniards? Same race? Different?

Please specify your criteria for differentiation.

And then tell me about 'white culture'. I'm all ears.

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