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12-10-2017, 09:27 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:13 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 09:08 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Only the truth should be reported.

And who determines what is and isn't "the truth"? Trump? Nixon would have served two full terms if it worked that way.

It's easy. Put sources on the record. Record them. These fuckers are just making shit up and claiming "sources." That's bullshit and it needs to stop. They shouldn't report shit unless it's been 100% confirmed.

When NBC reports something, and one of the most highly respected men to ever put on a military uniform has to put out a statement saying "Recent reports that the President called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible" then we have problems. NBC outright lied, or their "source" lied. Someone should be punished.
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12-10-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 09:13 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  And who determines what is and isn't "the truth"? Trump? Nixon would have served two full terms if it worked that way.

It's easy. Put sources on the record. Record them. These fuckers are just making shit up and claiming "sources." That's bullshit and it needs to stop. They shouldn't report shit unless it's been 100% confirmed.

When NBC reports something, and one of the most highly respected men to ever put on a military uniform has to put out a statement saying "Recent reports that the President called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible" then we have problems. NBC outright lied, or their "source" lied. Someone should be punished.

You're not really so stupid that you can't see the problem with this, are you? You can't put a source on the record where there would be retaliation. No one would say anything for fear of reprisal.

Oh wait, that's actually what you want, isn't it? A nation state where the people in power can do and say whatever they want and no one can call them out on it.

Anonymity protects those who keep those in power in check, moron. It's why Fortune 500 companies conduct anonymous employee surveys about work culture, leadership, etc. They know no one would answer with anything but bullshit roses and sunshine if their responses could be tied back to them.
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12-10-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 07:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Fake news.

Phony "sources."

Exactly what the dumpster would say! Laugh out load

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12-10-2017, 09:39 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 09:13 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  And who determines what is and isn't "the truth"? Trump? Nixon would have served two full terms if it worked that way.

It's easy. Put sources on the record. Record them. These fuckers are just making shit up and claiming "sources." That's bullshit and it needs to stop. They shouldn't report shit unless it's been 100% confirmed.

When NBC reports something, and one of the most highly respected men to ever put on a military uniform has to put out a statement saying "Recent reports that the President called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible" then we have problems. NBC outright lied, or their "source" lied. Someone should be punished.

Following that logic, what would happen if one of the most highly respected men to ever put on a military uniform lied concerning this issue and Trump did called for an increase of the Amercian nuclear arsenal capacity?

Wha do you think about making all political meetings public (as in recorded and accessible to the press)?

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12-10-2017, 09:44 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:38 AM)Stefan Mayerschoff Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 09:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  It's easy. Put sources on the record. Record them. These fuckers are just making shit up and claiming "sources." That's bullshit and it needs to stop. They shouldn't report shit unless it's been 100% confirmed.

When NBC reports something, and one of the most highly respected men to ever put on a military uniform has to put out a statement saying "Recent reports that the President called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible" then we have problems. NBC outright lied, or their "source" lied. Someone should be punished.

You're not really so stupid that you can't see the problem with this, are you?

He is that stupid.

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12-10-2017, 09:45 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:38 AM)Stefan Mayerschoff Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 09:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  It's easy. Put sources on the record. Record them. These fuckers are just making shit up and claiming "sources." That's bullshit and it needs to stop. They shouldn't report shit unless it's been 100% confirmed.

When NBC reports something, and one of the most highly respected men to ever put on a military uniform has to put out a statement saying "Recent reports that the President called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible" then we have problems. NBC outright lied, or their "source" lied. Someone should be punished.

You're not really so stupid that you can't see the problem with this, are you? You can't put a source on the record where there would be retaliation. No one would say anything for fear of reprisal.

Oh wait, that's actually what you want, isn't it? A nation state where the people in power can do and say whatever they want and no one can call them out on it.

Anonymity protects those who keep those in power in check, moron. It's why Fortune 500 companies conduct anonymous employee surveys about work culture, leadership, etc. They know no one would answer with anything but bullshit roses and sunshine if their responses could be tied back to them.

So "sources" are free to lie, or not even be real at all, to protect the ones that might be real?

That's nonsense. We live in the information age. We have knowledge at our fingertips. We can handle it. If Trump really said we need a 10x increase in nuclear weapons, multiple people in that room would come out and say that. James Mattis is one of the most respected men in this country. He says Trump didn't say it. Somebody is fucking lying. And I'll take bets it's not James Mattis. NBC made up this story with a fake source, or the "source" is someone with an axe to grind against Trump. An Obama holdover probably.

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12-10-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
Well, then trump needs to disclose his sources for all the lies he has told over the years. Or maybe just while he was in office. Wanna bet that most of the time the source is his very good brain? Because he is so smart?

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12-10-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:38 AM)Stefan Mayerschoff Wrote:  You're not really so stupid that you can't see the problem with this, are you? You can't put a source on the record where there would be retaliation. No one would say anything for fear of reprisal.

Oh wait, that's actually what you want, isn't it? A nation state where the people in power can do and say whatever they want and no one can call them out on it.

It shouldn't be surprising. Back in 2015, Matthew MacWilliams, a political scientist at the University of Massachusetts, gave a questionnaire on childrearing. Specifically, he asked whether it is more important to raise a child to be
  • respectful or independent
  • obedient or self-reliant
  • well-behaved or considerate
  • well-mannered or curious.
More so than any other predictor asked (race, sex, religion, party affiliation, age, etc), people who chose the more authoritarian response on all four questions were much more likely to support Trump.
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12-10-2017, 10:16 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:27 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 09:13 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  And who determines what is and isn't "the truth"? Trump? Nixon would have served two full terms if it worked that way.

It's easy. Put sources on the record. Record them. These fuckers are just making shit up and claiming "sources." That's bullshit and it needs to stop. They shouldn't report shit unless it's been 100% confirmed.

When NBC reports something, and one of the most highly respected men to ever put on a military uniform has to put out a statement saying "Recent reports that the President called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible" then we have problems. NBC outright lied, or their "source" lied. Someone should be punished.

... or Mattis is lying. We don't know the truth yet.

And sometimes sources need to be protected. Journalists in Russia have lost their lives for reporting the truth. It hasn't gotten that bad yet here, but it will if Trump gets his way. I trust the news media more than I trust Trump or anyone in his administration. Which is not to say the media are infallible. But intelligent people can and will sort this out without government censorship.
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12-10-2017, 10:20 AM
RE: White House Aides Admit They Treat Trump Like A Child To Protect Him
(12-10-2017 09:08 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Trump isn't doing anything different than any of the other republican candidates would have done.
Where'd you get those blinders? They're working really well. Drinking Beverage

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