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14-02-2015, 07:50 PM
Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
I was just wondering. Theists tell me that their god created everything in existence from a supernatural realm outside of existence. Leaving aside the self contradictory notion of something existing outside of existence, who created the supernatural realm?

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14-02-2015, 08:25 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
Good question, I don't know the actual history of this concept, the bible alludes to it. I believe it would've probably been fleshed out during the early history of the Catholic church why this god they keep talking about is consistently invisible 100% of the time. It's something they had to come up with to get the peasants to continue believing in things that have no real proof other than emotions or hallucinations.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

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14-02-2015, 08:29 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
A true Christian believes that God created everything, including himself.

If we came from dust, then why is there still dust?
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14-02-2015, 10:57 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
Ronald McDonald?

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15-02-2015, 12:38 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
Don't they just assert that god and hence the supernatural realm are eternal, have always been there.
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15-02-2015, 08:14 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
Quote:Eric Kripke (born April 24, 1974) is an American television writer, director, and producer. He is the creator of The WB (now The CW) series Supernatural and more recently the NBC series Revolution.

...which has the virtue of being an actual answer. Tongue

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15-02-2015, 08:26 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
What is a supernatural realm? What does it consist of?
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15-02-2015, 08:38 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
That argument, just like the first cause one, suffers from the fallacy of special pleading. The person arguing for god's existence sets special characteristics or limitations for one variable and ignores the other. Following this ridiculous line of thought then the supernatural realm doesn't need a creation but the physical realm needs, so god created the physical world but the supernatural has always existed. It's a fallacious point because the theist assumes there's no need to prove the supernatural needs to be created as well.

Before saying that god created everything from a supernatural realm outside of physical existence, theists need to prove first that god exists and that a supernatural world exists.

"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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15-02-2015, 08:51 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(15-02-2015 08:26 AM)natachan Wrote:  What is a supernatural realm? What does it consist of?

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15-02-2015, 08:53 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
It's pretty obvious.

The first guy who came up with the god concept, needed a closet for the deity to pop out of, once in a while.

Hence the invention of "the Supernatural Realm" - sort of a spooky clubhouse for "god" and his buddies to hang out in, when not smiting the neighbors......

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