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14-12-2015, 12:12 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(14-12-2015 09:54 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  ~ blah ~ blah ~ blah ~

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14-12-2015, 07:56 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(14-12-2015 10:06 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(14-12-2015 08:23 AM)Chas Wrote:  You should stick your ignorance and stupidity up your ass; maybe that would shut you up. Consider

Your problem, Chas, is that cat is whispering in your ear too much. If you put an end to that, you might be an independent thinker, like me Cool

(14-12-2015 08:23 AM)Chas Wrote:  A person is sad because of the chemical processes in his brain.

If the chemicals is what makes the person sad, then what constitutes the "person". If heat is what makes the pie bake, then we've identified what is being baked (the pie).

But if the chemicals is what makes the person sad, then what the hell is the person?? What constitutes the person??

I am gonna watch you try to fiddle-faddle your way out of this Laugh out load You are in a no- winning situation as usual, Chas, and your snarky ass replies just wont be able to help you in this because you can't rebuttal the truth.

You can rebuttal a lie..

But you can't rebuttal the truth Cool

The verb is 'rebut', you ignoramus.

A person is the sum total of those chemical processes patterned by the connections and pathways of the brain. Consciousness and emotions are emergent properties of those.

It is completely opaque what you think a person is.

So the cat is still a problem for you? You are a sad, sad little man.

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15-12-2015, 10:12 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(14-12-2015 07:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  The verb is 'rebut', you ignoramus.

And the noun is 'cat', you sour puss Laugh out load

(14-12-2015 07:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  A person is the sum total of those chemical processes patterned by the connections and pathways of the brain. Consciousness and emotions are emergent properties of those.

But the "sum total of those chemical processes patterned by the connection and pathways of the brain" are not sad, or angry. They are patterned to make/form the emotion, but they themselves don't EXPERIENCE the emotion, you do...so obviously the you is distinct from the natural phenomenon that makes you sad.

Keep trying, tho Thumbsup eventually, you will get to the point where you will have to say "Holy crap, he is right...and there is nothing I can do about it".

But if not, keep getting intellectually spanked.
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15-12-2015, 10:14 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(14-12-2015 10:18 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Excuse the interruption, what is this fiddle faddle no win situation you think exist here? On what plan of thinking do you conclude something like that? Rebuttal WHAT truth?

Heat would also make a person bake, btw.

In your very lethargic metaphor, a person is a person the same way the pie is a pie. The form and the substance of what is made within it. The crust & flavored filling, just as the skeletal & organ structure(including the brain) is there of the human.

How about offering a response that relates to the meat and potato's of what I said?
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15-12-2015, 10:50 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(15-12-2015 10:12 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(14-12-2015 07:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  The verb is 'rebut', you ignoramus.

And the noun is 'cat', you sour puss Laugh out load

(14-12-2015 07:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  A person is the sum total of those chemical processes patterned by the connections and pathways of the brain. Consciousness and emotions are emergent properties of those.

But the "sum total of those chemical processes patterned by the connection and pathways of the brain" are not sad, or angry. They are patterned to make/form the emotion, but they themselves don't EXPERIENCE the emotion, you do...so obviously the you is distinct from the natural phenomenon that makes you sad.

The 'you' is the consciousness that is the total of those emergent properties of electrochemical processes. Some day you may understand.

Quote:Keep trying, tho Thumbsup eventually, you will get to the point where you will have to say "Holy crap, he is right...and there is nothing I can do about it".

But if not, keep getting intellectually spanked.

You are ridiculous. The only one getting spanked is you.

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15-12-2015, 11:36 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(15-12-2015 10:14 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(14-12-2015 10:18 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Excuse the interruption, what is this fiddle faddle no win situation you think exist here? On what plan of thinking do you conclude something like that? Rebuttal WHAT truth?

Heat would also make a person bake, btw.

In your very lethargic metaphor, a person is a person the same way the pie is a pie. The form and the substance of what is made within it. The crust & flavored filling, just as the skeletal & organ structure(including the brain) is there of the human.

How about offering a response that relates to the meat and potato's of what I said?

There isn't anything. It's all bad metaphorical arguments that don't reflect anything real. You aren't actually making an argument, that's why In multiple posts I'm actually asking to see what you THINK you are saying and doing. Because it will uncover more thought into what the process of continuing discussion will do for you.

You could as well actually respond to people in a manner about the basis for your claims. You've stated before in this thread on things you deem logically possible or not... and I asked you, on what basis is your judgement on knowing what is logically possible or sound in these various topics? You haven't demonstrated a point to how you get to anything you believe is "meat and potatoes"

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15-12-2015, 02:03 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(15-12-2015 10:50 AM)Chas Wrote:  The 'you' is the consciousness that is the total of those emergent properties of electrochemical processes.

Nonsense. The electrochemical processes isn't what is conscious, though. If you are conscious, but the electrochemical processes aren't, then again, there is something true about you that isn't true about the electro processes...which means they are distinct (not the same) and one is still at this point unidentified.

And another thing...notice what you said: "The "you" is the consciousness that is the total of those emergent properties of electrochemical processes".

I mean, look at it...it SOUNDS correct. Sounds like it could be the truth, right? However, it isn't. That is precisely the norm during these kind of discussions...a lot of technical talk, sounding nice and pretty...yet, it is wrong.

You can use as many big words as you like, it is still false. Laughat
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15-12-2015, 06:20 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
Why are we still entertaining the liar as if he is even going to attempt to ingest replies before barfing his woo back at you?
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15-12-2015, 06:44 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(15-12-2015 10:12 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  But if not, keep getting intellectually spanked.

Spank me.

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15-12-2015, 06:54 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(15-12-2015 02:03 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(15-12-2015 10:50 AM)Chas Wrote:  The 'you' is the consciousness that is the total of those emergent properties of electrochemical processes.

Nonsense. The electrochemical processes isn't what is conscious, though. If you are conscious, but the electrochemical processes aren't, then again, there is something true about you that isn't true about the electro processes...which means they are distinct (not the same) and one is still at this point unidentified.

No, you do not understand what an emergent property is.
Have you even looked up the term? I didn't think so.

Water is wet. Are the hydrogen atoms wet? Are the oxygen atoms wet? Is one molecule of water wet?
The wetness is an emergent property of the collection of water molecules.

What do you get if you combine a particular explosive metal and a particular poisonous gas?
Table salt. Is the chlorine salty? Is the sodium salty? Where did the salty come from?

Quote:And another thing...notice what you said: "The "you" is the consciousness that is the total of those emergent properties of electrochemical processes".

I mean, look at it...it SOUNDS correct. Sounds like it could be the truth, right? However, it isn't. That is precisely the norm during these kind of discussions...a lot of technical talk, sounding nice and pretty...yet, it is wrong.

You can use as many big words as you like, it is still false. Laughat

Prove that it is wrong. We'll wait. Drinking Beverage

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