Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
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28-01-2016, 04:20 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(28-01-2016 02:03 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(28-01-2016 10:09 AM)Chas Wrote:  Because an ancient book of myths says so? You have no real thinking skills.

Can you prove it to be a myth, or is it a myth because you don't like the idea of a Supreme Being telling you what to do and how you should do it.

The latter.

No, there is absolutely no evidence that it is true. None, nada, zip. Drinking Beverage

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28-01-2016, 04:22 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(28-01-2016 02:07 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(28-01-2016 11:10 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Alright so Jesus said something, but what are we to think about it. We should accept his proclaimed truth is truth because?

Thats the thing, he didn't only say something..but he DID something. Examine the historical evidence for the Resurrection, and if you can't come to Christ after that, then hey, eternal life through Christ just aint for you.

There is absolutely no historical evidence for the resurrection. None, nada, zip, zilch. Drinking Beverage

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29-01-2016, 12:27 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(28-01-2016 02:14 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(28-01-2016 01:35 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Well dude this is the same book that says the sun revolves around the earth.

I gave a chapter/verse regarding the "book" of John, and in the "book" of John, no such thing is said.

Try again, good sir Big Grin

I mean the bible.

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29-01-2016, 08:15 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(28-01-2016 02:07 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(28-01-2016 11:10 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Alright so Jesus said something, but what are we to think about it. We should accept his proclaimed truth is truth because?

Thats the thing, he didn't only say something..but he DID something. Examine the historical evidence for the Resurrection, and if you can't come to Christ after that, then hey, eternal life through Christ just aint for you.

The "historical" evidence for the resurrection is limited to the writings of the New Testament -- fan fiction written many years after the supposed events by "true believers". It hardly qualifies as evidence.

Also, based on all available evidence, eternal life ain't for anyone. When you die, you gonna die, and that's that. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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29-01-2016, 09:01 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
So ... since CoTW has repetedly shown he has "nuthin" ... would this not then be the right place to ask more important questions ?

1. When *did* Horton hear the who ?
2. Can anyone get into Whoville ?

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29-01-2016, 09:05 AM
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COTW has the capacity to examine his beliefs from an unbiased perspective, but not the will.

So he'll repeat the same logical fallacies over and over until he has the will to examine these beliefs in an unbiased way.

He stated in the debate with Dark Phoenix he believes in the Christian god because he likes the idea of an afterlife in heaven.

Wishful thinking is at the root of his belief, and no amount of evidence will stop his desire to believe.

Though why he thinks he needs to get on an atheist forum and mock us that don't believe this fantasy betrays his desperation.

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29-01-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(28-01-2016 04:20 PM)Chas Wrote:  No, there is absolutely no evidence that it is true. None, nada, zip. Drinking Beverage

Well, there is evidence to me. And besides, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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29-01-2016, 10:01 AM
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(29-01-2016 09:05 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  COTW has the capacity to examine his beliefs from an unbiased perspective, but not the will.

Jesus is the Will, and the Way.

(29-01-2016 09:05 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  So he'll repeat the same logical fallacies over and over until he has the will to examine these beliefs in an unbiased way.

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(29-01-2016 09:05 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  He stated in the debate with Dark Phoenix he believes in the Christian god because he likes the idea of an afterlife in heaven.

Is that an exact quote? Laugh out load

(29-01-2016 09:05 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  Though why he thinks he needs to get on an atheist forum and mock us that don't believe this fantasy betrays his desperation.

Hey, if faith in Jesus Christ for salvation is too much for you to bear, continue making your beds.
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29-01-2016, 10:11 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(29-01-2016 08:15 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  The "historical" evidence for the resurrection is limited to the writings of the New Testament

And why doesn't New Testament writings have virtue? If your attitude towards the NT is "if it comes from the NT, it can't be true", then your entire reasoning is fallacious.

And second, the books that make up the New Testament were originally independent books. So before any book of the NT was written, the belief of the Resurrection was already in place, and it had been in place for at least 25 years prior to the books being written.

Early stuff.

(29-01-2016 08:15 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  -- fan fiction written many years after the supposed events by "true believers". It hardly qualifies as evidence.

The books were written many years (at least 20 years) after the events. But the BELIEF in the Resurrection was held immediately after the events.

(29-01-2016 08:15 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Also, based on all available evidence, eternal life ain't for anyone.

True fact.


(29-01-2016 08:15 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  When you die, you gonna die, and that's that. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Laugh out load

How do you know? Did you ever die and come back? Well, if you did, then that wouldn't be "that'. But if you didn't die and come back, then that would be "that'...but then again if that were the case, you wouldn't be here to make the statement.

So either way, your fallaciousness continues...You have to accept by faith that there is no life after death, don't you?
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29-01-2016, 10:12 AM
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(29-01-2016 12:27 AM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  I mean the bible.

Scripture, please?
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