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02-02-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 11:18 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(02-02-2016 11:08 AM)Chas Wrote:  Because that was all that was required. Drinking Beverage

Apparently...because I know all of your 32,000+ posts don't consist of paragraphs and short stories...

Your point? Consider

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02-02-2016, 11:30 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(01-02-2016 10:03 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(31-01-2016 08:13 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  Do the facts of reality depend on consciousness for their existence or do facts obtain independently of consciousness? In essence, does "wishing make it so" or "does wishing not make it so"?

Wishing it does NOT make it so. The facts of reality does NOT depend on consciousness for their existence.

Ok, and?? I am still waiting on the "this proves that God doesn't exist" part. Haven't seen that part as of yet.

Wishing does not make it so, but praying does? Believing makes it so?
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02-02-2016, 12:25 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Care to prove how they are sound/valid and not merely assertions?

Sure.

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Exactly on what known basis's is it proven everything that exists has to be created?

I don't recall saying "everything that exists has to be created".

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  That Everything exists for a reason?

Provide a third option, please.

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  That the universe came to exist and that it COULDNT of done so via it's own nature?

Infinity problem, second law of thermodynamics, BGV theorem, entropy.

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  These proofs come from...?

Science, philosophy, and mathemathics.
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02-02-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 11:27 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(02-02-2016 11:18 AM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  Apparently...because I know all of your 32,000+ posts don't consist of paragraphs and short stories...

Your point? Consider

My point is simple; anyone can have 32,000+ posts if they are only averaging about three sentences per post.
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02-02-2016, 12:31 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 12:25 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Care to prove how they are sound/valid and not merely assertions?

Sure.

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Exactly on what known basis's is it proven everything that exists has to be created?

I don't recall saying "everything that exists has to be created".

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  That Everything exists for a reason?

Provide a third option, please.

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  That the universe came to exist and that it COULDNT of done so via it's own nature?

Infinity problem, second law of thermodynamics, BGV theorem, entropy.

(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  These proofs come from...?

Science, philosophy, and mathemathics.

Taking lessons from agnostic shane?

How are the phrase science, philosophy, & mathematics showcasing where proofs are? Are things in science certainly proven?

Does the second law of thermodynamics mean in every situations and scenario this concept applies & that is certain? Does it? Does the same go for the increase of entropy?

There still isn't anything here based on something proven. It's based on systems as they are currently scene in specific scenarios and attempting to apply these rules universally when there isn't an absolute positive claim that they function that way, which is why there is no proof they function that way.

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02-02-2016, 12:31 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 11:30 AM)DerFish Wrote:  Wishing does not make it so, but praying does? Believing makes it so?

If the arguments for the existence of the Christian God is true (and they are), then yes.
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02-02-2016, 12:33 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 12:25 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(02-02-2016 11:22 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  These proofs come from...?

Science, philosophy, and mathemathics.

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Aside from the fact that you can't even spell mathematics, you have shown absolutely no understanding of mathematics in any of your posts -- especially the mathematics of infinity.
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02-02-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 12:31 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(02-02-2016 11:30 AM)DerFish Wrote:  Wishing does not make it so, but praying does? Believing makes it so?

If the arguments for the existence of the Christian God is true (and they are), then yes.

Why not for the Jewish god?

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02-02-2016, 12:37 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 12:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Taking lessons from agnostic shane?

Who?

(02-02-2016 12:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  How are the phrase science, philosophy, & mathematics showcasing where proofs are?

They are all tools for knowledge.

(02-02-2016 12:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Are things in science certainly proven?

I don't know about science, but as far as philosophy and math is concerned, yeah.

(02-02-2016 12:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Does the second law of thermodynamics mean in every situations and scenario this concept applies & that is certain?

It is the case in THIS scenario.

(02-02-2016 12:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Does it? Does the same go for the increase of entropy?

Yeah.

(02-02-2016 12:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  There still isn't anything here based on something proven. It's based on systems as they are currently scene in specific scenarios and attempting to apply these rules universally when there isn't an absolute positive claim that they function that way, which is why there is no proof they function that way.

Taxi cab fallacy. Sure, ride the "science taxi cab" anywhere you want, but once the science taxi cab is arriving at this particular location (Theism Avenue), now all of a sudden you don't want to ride in the taxi cab any longer.

Now you want to call into question where the taxi cab is going. Bullshit.
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02-02-2016, 12:39 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(02-02-2016 12:34 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Why not for the Jewish god?

Thats like asking "Why do you chose french fries instead of hash browns". Either way, you are getting potatos.

In other words, The Christian God is the Jewish God.
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