Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
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05-10-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(05-10-2015 09:32 AM)true scotsman Wrote:  This is all just faith based belief.
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05-10-2015, 03:36 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(05-10-2015 03:27 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 09:32 AM)true scotsman Wrote:  This is all just faith based belief.
Sure, I understand. Smile

I can respect someone who acknowledges this.Smile

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05-10-2015, 08:33 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(05-10-2015 09:32 AM)true scotsman Wrote:  I'm trying to see if the idea of an infinite regress is rational or not. I don't think it is and I was hoping you would provide some kind of argument for how an infinite regress of causes could be possible.
We can't know now.
TO BELIEVE OR NOT TO BELIEVE - this is the question!
I believe in eternal progression, so I have to believe in its opposition - eternal/infinite regress.
It is hard to comprehend for mortal imperfect men these kind of things.
I believe that one day I will know and I will comprehend this. But for right now this knowledge is useless. So, why waste time?

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05-10-2015, 08:34 PM
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(05-10-2015 03:36 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 03:27 PM)Alla Wrote:  Sure, I understand. Smile

I can respect someone who acknowledges this.Smile
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06-10-2015, 12:27 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
Da fuq???

Alla, you're awfully fast and loose with the terms "believe" and "know".
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08-11-2015, 05:27 PM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(14-02-2015 07:50 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  I was just wondering. Theists tell me that their god created everything in existence from a supernatural realm outside of existence. Leaving aside the self contradictory notion of something existing outside of existence, who created the supernatural realm?

Whatever realm that God existed in before the creation of the natural world would have to be as necessary as God himself.
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08-11-2015, 05:57 PM
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(04-10-2015 02:15 PM)Alla Wrote:  1)There is no such thing as the first God and there is no such thing as the last God in infinite and eternal space.
2)Each God has His/Her own Gods who created them and each God has own worlds.
3)Each God is organized from matter that is eternal. Each God has to pass different stages before He or She has godhood.
4)To become God(to have godhood) means to have eternal life which means to have eternal progression which means increase in glory(worlds and posterity).
5)God revealed that there is eternal un-organized matter. There is no cause for it. It was never created it will never be destroyed. Gods only know how to use it and to organize it.
What is the point of these unobservable, unverifiable beliefs/assertions?
Why do you waste time thinking about them?
Why do you waste time telling others about them?
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09-11-2015, 07:07 AM
RE: Who Created The Supernatual Realm.
(08-11-2015 05:27 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(14-02-2015 07:50 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  I was just wondering. Theists tell me that their god created everything in existence from a supernatural realm outside of existence. Leaving aside the self contradictory notion of something existing outside of existence, who created the supernatural realm?

Whatever realm that God existed in before the creation of the natural world would have to be as necessary as God himself.

Of course, there is no evidence of either. Drinking Beverage

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09-11-2015, 07:34 AM
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(09-11-2015 07:07 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(08-11-2015 05:27 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  Whatever realm that God existed in before the creation of the natural world would have to be as necessary as God himself.

Of course, there is no evidence of either. Drinking Beverage

Yabut, special pleading resolves everything.

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09-11-2015, 10:08 AM
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(09-11-2015 07:07 AM)Chas Wrote:  Of course, there is no evidence of either. Drinking Beverage

Well, lets see..

Kalam
Consciousness
Ontological
Design
Morality
Historicity of Jesus

Plus Alvin Plantiga's "Two Dozen or so Theistic arguments" which may or may not include the one's mentioned above.

Yet, there is no evidence? Laugh out load
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