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27-12-2015, 03:56 PM
Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
1. Does God have a name?

In my opinion God's name is not the most important thing. What's more important is the way we conduct our lives. However The Creator has given us a name to call him by, thus providing a method to talk to God in a more personal manner.

Although God has many titles, he has only one name. In each language, it is pronounced differently. In English it is usually pronounced “Jehovah.” But some people pronounce it “Yahweh.” (Psalm 83:18)

God’s name has been taken out of many Bibles and replaced with the titles Lord or God. But when the Bible was written, it contained God’s name some 7,000 times. Jesus made God’s name known when he taught people about God. (John 17:26)

2. What is God like?

God is love. He cares about us all deeply and wishes that not one of us take the path of destruction. (Peter 3:9) We can discern God’s personality from the things he has created and the emotions we possess. For instance, the variety of fruits, flowers and animals, the beautiful landscapes and the warm sun that accompanies them. Joyful tears, love, kindness, compassion etc etc tells us of his love and wisdom. The size of the universe tells us of his power. (Romans 1:20) Jehovah knows us better than we know ourselves. He knows exactly how many hairs we have on our head. (Luke 12:7)

Jehovah creates rules not for his own benefit, but for ours. If we follow the rules outlined in the Bible. It helps to prevent us from experiencing the pain and darkness of this temporary system of things.

We can learn even more about God’s personality by reading the Bible. For example, it tells us what God likes and what he does not like, how he treats people, and how he reacts in different situations. (Psalm 103:7-10)

3. How can we draw closer to God?

In-order to draw close to the creator of the universe. We need to try and show Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

Jehovah invites us to draw close to him by speaking to him in prayer. He is interested in us individually. (Psalm 65:2; 145:18) He is willing to forgive. He recognizes our efforts to please him, even if we sometimes fail. So despite our imperfection, we really can enjoy a close relationship with God. (Psalm 103:12-14, James 4:8)


4. Why does God Allow Suffering?

All of Jehovah’s works are perfect; he is not the author of unrighteousness; so he did not create anyone wicked. (Deut. 32:4, Ps. 5:4) The one who became Satan was originally a perfect spirit son of God. When saying that the Devil “did not stand fast in the truth,” Jesus indicated that at one time that one was “in the truth.” (John 8:44) But, as is true of all of God’s intelligent creatures, this spirit son was endowed with free will. He abused his freedom of choice, allowed feelings of self-importance to develop in his heart, began to crave worship that belonged only to God, and so enticed Adam and Eve to listen to him rather than obey God. Thus by his course of action he made himself Satan, which means “adversary.” (Jas. 1:14, 15)

Why did not God destroy Satan promptly after he rebelled?

Serious issues were raised by Satan: (1) The righteousness and rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty. Was Jehovah withholding from mankind freedom that would contribute to their happiness? Were mankind’s ability to govern their affairs successfully and their continued life truly dependent on their obedience to God? Had Jehovah been dishonest in giving a law that stated that disobedience would lead to their death? (Gen. 2:16, 17, 3:3-5) So, did Jehovah really have the right to rule? (2) The integrity of intelligent creatures toward Jehovah. By the deflection of Adam and Eve the question was raised: Did Jehovah’s servants really obey him out of love or might all of them abandon God and follow the lead being given by Satan? This latter issue was further developed by Satan in the days of Job. (Gen. 3:6, Job 1:8-11, 2:3-5 see also Luke 22:31) These issues could not be settled by merely executing the rebels.

5. Is the end of the world really near?

THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “When you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near.” (LUKE 21:31)

The Bible prophets were inspired by God to describe conditions that would indicate an imminent end of the world. Consider some of those prophecies and decide for yourself whether they are being fulfilled in our time.

Wars, famines, earthquakes, and epidemics of deadly disease. (Matthew 24:7, Luke 21:11)

Significant increase in crime. (Matthew 24:12)

The ruining of the earth by mankind. (Revelation 11:18)

People who love themselves, money, and pleasures but do not love God. (2 Timothy 3:2, 4)

The breakdown of the family. (2 Timothy 3:2, 3)

General apathy toward the evidence of the approaching end. (Matthew 24:37-39)

The preaching of the good news of God’s Kingdom worldwide. (Matthew 24:14)


As Jesus said, seeing “all these things” lets us know that the end of the world is near. (Matthew 24:33) Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the evidence is convincing, and they share their faith with others by preaching in 236 lands.

6. What happens at the end of the world?

THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “The world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever.” (1 John 2:17)

“The world” that is to pass away is, not the earth, but the world of mankind whose lives are not in harmony with God’s will. Just as a surgeon might remove a cancerous tumor to save a patient’s life, God will “cut off” the wicked so that good people can truly enjoy life on earth. (Psalm 37:9) In that sense, “the end of the world” is a good thing.

Jesus called that future period “the renewal of all things.” At that time, he will restore humanity to the conditions that God originally intended. (Matthew 19:28) We will then enjoy

A paradise earth with security and prosperity for all. (Isaiah 35:1 Micah 4:4)

Work that is meaningful and satisfying. (Isaiah 65:21-23)

The curing of all disease. (Isaiah 33:24)

The reversal of aging. (Job 33:25)

The resurrection of the dead. (John 5:28, 29)


If we do “the will of God,” what he asks of us, we need not fear the end of the world. Instead, we can look forward to it.

7. Conclusion

We must try our best to help out our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as:
sexual immorality, greed, arrogance, hatred, selfishness, anger etc etc

Save your naughty side for the bedroom with someone you love.

Greed has crumbled entire empires, how more so can it destroy individuals.

Arrogance is a ugly trait and is often used to compensate for lacking confidence or inner-peace. The most respected and talented people are often the most humble.

Hatred is a horrible trait and leads to nothing good. We must look for the goodness in people and understand we all have feelings, and we're all victims of imperfections that cause us to act in unreasonable ways from time to time.

Selfishness is a lack of love for people. And although in this evil world it can feel like everyone is a backstabbing traitor and the best course of action is to take care of yourself and forget everyone else. We must fight the urge to lose confidence in all human-kind and realize there are loving, awesome people out there who need our help.

Anger is another undesirable trait that solves nothing, and causes unnecessary stress. Passion is a different matter and is admirable.

We must try and promote values of righteousness including:
Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

Religion, skin colour, wealth, beauty, power etc are irrelevant. Your heart is all that matters

Please Google JW Bible Answers for accurate information regarding God and Life..
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27-12-2015, 05:13 PM
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I was tempted to just delete this wall of copy pasta, but I thought a few of you might have fun tearing this apart.

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27-12-2015, 05:21 PM (This post was last modified: 27-12-2015 05:41 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  1. Does God have a name?

In my opinion God's name is not the most important thing. What's more important is the way we conduct our lives. However The Creator has given us a name to call him by, thus providing a method to talk to God in a more personal manner.

Although God has many titles, he has only one name.

Verily I say to you, thy name is Bob.

[Image: bob2_1.jpg]





(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  Please Google JW Bible Answers for accurate information regarding God and Life..

That ain't happening. I can interpret that shit all by myself just fine, skippy. Don't need no commentary from the peanut gallery. I can do it all by myself.




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27-12-2015, 05:32 PM (This post was last modified: 27-12-2015 08:01 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
God's name is Bob. All the rest, you'll have to check with him.

JW ? You can't possibly be serious, Joshua non verum.

(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  In my opinion God's name is not the most important thing. What's more important is the way we conduct our lives. However The Creator has given us a name to call him by, thus providing a method to talk to God in a more personal manner.

"Jevovah" is a German corruption of a mis-translation. It's also a Ammonite mountain god's name. It was conflated at one point with Yahweh, (who was the 70th son of the chief Babylonian deity, El Elyon). Take a class someday.

(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  God’s name has been taken out of many Bibles and replaced with the titles Lord or God. But when the Bible was written, it contained God’s name some 7,000 times. Jesus made God’s name known when he taught people about God. (John 17:26)

You have no clue when the Bible was written, by whom, or why.

(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  God is love.

That's pretty much a 20th Century invention. Paul said love is a VIRTUE, not a god. Jesus never said that. 20th Century Christians invented that sentimental drivel. The great Christian theologians of the past never said that. Aquinas or Augustine never said that.

(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  Jehovah creates rules not for his own benefit, but for ours. If we follow the rules outlined in the Bible. It helps to prevent us from experiencing the pain and darkness of this temporary system of things.

Assertion. No evidence. Prove it.

(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  We can learn even more about God’s personality by reading the Bible. For example, it tells us what God likes and what he does not like, how he treats people, and how he reacts in different situations. (Psalm 103:7-10)

Yeah. The god of the Bible is mean angry jerk who demanded his son to die, so he could feel better. A god with a "personality" is not infinite. A personality, by definition, is "limiting".
Do try to think through your nonsense before repeating it.

(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  In-order to draw close to the creator of the universe. We need to try and show Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

That's not what Jesus told the young man in Matthew. He told him to keep the commandments. That's all.

(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  Why does God Allow Suffering?

Tell that to the parents of the 3 month old dying of cancer how perfectly he made their innocent child. Idiot. There is no god, or innocent babies would not suffer.

Nice try at rationalization. What we observe in this universe is exactly what one would expect if there was no god. You have done nothing to demonstrate or convince anyone of the coherency or veracity of the concept. The very idea of a "god" which exists, is incoherent.

There is a book you need to read.
"How NOT to Share Your Faith"
http://www.amazon.com/How-Share-Your-Fai...1888992301

Maybe Santa can still make an extra stop at your house with it.
What ? Are you like 10 ?

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27-12-2015, 05:33 PM
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I'm eating a burrito. If God was a burrito, he would be this burrito because it is delicious. Hobo
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27-12-2015, 05:37 PM
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(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  1. Does God have a name?

In my opinion God's name is not the most important thing. What's more important is the way we conduct our lives. However The Creator has given us a name to call him by, thus providing a method to talk to God in a more personal manner.

Although God has many titles, he has only one name. In each language, it is pronounced differently. In English it is usually pronounced “Jehovah.” But some people pronounce it “Yahweh.” (Psalm 83:18)

God’s name has been taken out of many Bibles and replaced with the titles Lord or God. But when the Bible was written, it contained God’s name some 7,000 times. Jesus made God’s name known when he taught people about God. (John 17:26)

2. What is God like?

God is love. He cares about us all deeply and wishes that not one of us take the path of destruction. (Peter 3:9) We can discern God’s personality from the things he has created and the emotions we possess. For instance, the variety of fruits, flowers and animals, the beautiful landscapes and the warm sun that accompanies them. Joyful tears, love, kindness, compassion etc etc tells us of his love and wisdom. The size of the universe tells us of his power. (Romans 1:20) Jehovah knows us better than we know ourselves. He knows exactly how many hairs we have on our head. (Luke 12:7)

Jehovah creates rules not for his own benefit, but for ours. If we follow the rules outlined in the Bible. It helps to prevent us from experiencing the pain and darkness of this temporary system of things.

We can learn even more about God’s personality by reading the Bible. For example, it tells us what God likes and what he does not like, how he treats people, and how he reacts in different situations. (Psalm 103:7-10)

3. How can we draw closer to God?

In-order to draw close to the creator of the universe. We need to try and show Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

Jehovah invites us to draw close to him by speaking to him in prayer. He is interested in us individually. (Psalm 65:2; 145:18) He is willing to forgive. He recognizes our efforts to please him, even if we sometimes fail. So despite our imperfection, we really can enjoy a close relationship with God. (Psalm 103:12-14, James 4:8)


4. Why does God Allow Suffering?

All of Jehovah’s works are perfect; he is not the author of unrighteousness; so he did not create anyone wicked. (Deut. 32:4, Ps. 5:4) The one who became Satan was originally a perfect spirit son of God. When saying that the Devil “did not stand fast in the truth,” Jesus indicated that at one time that one was “in the truth.” (John 8:44) But, as is true of all of God’s intelligent creatures, this spirit son was endowed with free will. He abused his freedom of choice, allowed feelings of self-importance to develop in his heart, began to crave worship that belonged only to God, and so enticed Adam and Eve to listen to him rather than obey God. Thus by his course of action he made himself Satan, which means “adversary.” (Jas. 1:14, 15)

Why did not God destroy Satan promptly after he rebelled?

Serious issues were raised by Satan: (1) The righteousness and rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty. Was Jehovah withholding from mankind freedom that would contribute to their happiness? Were mankind’s ability to govern their affairs successfully and their continued life truly dependent on their obedience to God? Had Jehovah been dishonest in giving a law that stated that disobedience would lead to their death? (Gen. 2:16, 17, 3:3-5) So, did Jehovah really have the right to rule? (2) The integrity of intelligent creatures toward Jehovah. By the deflection of Adam and Eve the question was raised: Did Jehovah’s servants really obey him out of love or might all of them abandon God and follow the lead being given by Satan? This latter issue was further developed by Satan in the days of Job. (Gen. 3:6, Job 1:8-11, 2:3-5 see also Luke 22:31) These issues could not be settled by merely executing the rebels.

5. Is the end of the world really near?

THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “When you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near.” (LUKE 21:31)

The Bible prophets were inspired by God to describe conditions that would indicate an imminent end of the world. Consider some of those prophecies and decide for yourself whether they are being fulfilled in our time.

Wars, famines, earthquakes, and epidemics of deadly disease. (Matthew 24:7, Luke 21:11)

Significant increase in crime. (Matthew 24:12)

The ruining of the earth by mankind. (Revelation 11:18)

People who love themselves, money, and pleasures but do not love God. (2 Timothy 3:2, 4)

The breakdown of the family. (2 Timothy 3:2, 3)

General apathy toward the evidence of the approaching end. (Matthew 24:37-39)

The preaching of the good news of God’s Kingdom worldwide. (Matthew 24:14)


As Jesus said, seeing “all these things” lets us know that the end of the world is near. (Matthew 24:33) Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the evidence is convincing, and they share their faith with others by preaching in 236 lands.

6. What happens at the end of the world?

THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “The world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever.” (1 John 2:17)

“The world” that is to pass away is, not the earth, but the world of mankind whose lives are not in harmony with God’s will. Just as a surgeon might remove a cancerous tumor to save a patient’s life, God will “cut off” the wicked so that good people can truly enjoy life on earth. (Psalm 37:9) In that sense, “the end of the world” is a good thing.

Jesus called that future period “the renewal of all things.” At that time, he will restore humanity to the conditions that God originally intended. (Matthew 19:28) We will then enjoy

A paradise earth with security and prosperity for all. (Isaiah 35:1 Micah 4:4)

Work that is meaningful and satisfying. (Isaiah 65:21-23)

The curing of all disease. (Isaiah 33:24)

The reversal of aging. (Job 33:25)

The resurrection of the dead. (John 5:28, 29)


If we do “the will of God,” what he asks of us, we need not fear the end of the world. Instead, we can look forward to it.

7. Conclusion

We must try our best to help out our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as:
sexual immorality, greed, arrogance, hatred, selfishness, anger etc etc

Save your naughty side for the bedroom with someone you love.

Greed has crumbled entire empires, how more so can it destroy individuals.

Arrogance is a ugly trait and is often used to compensate for lacking confidence or inner-peace. The most respected and talented people are often the most humble.

Hatred is a horrible trait and leads to nothing good. We must look for the goodness in people and understand we all have feelings, and we're all victims of imperfections that cause us to act in unreasonable ways from time to time.

Selfishness is a lack of love for people. And although in this evil world it can feel like everyone is a backstabbing traitor and the best course of action is to take care of yourself and forget everyone else. We must fight the urge to lose confidence in all human-kind and realize there are loving, awesome people out there who need our help.

Anger is another undesirable trait that solves nothing, and causes unnecessary stress. Passion is a different matter and is admirable.

We must try and promote values of righteousness including:
Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

Religion, skin colour, wealth, beauty, power etc are irrelevant. Your heart is all that matters

Please Google JW Bible Answers for accurate information regarding God and Life..

Yet in that entire wall of text there's not one iota of evidence that a god actually exists so your questions are basically moot.

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27-12-2015, 05:41 PM
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(27-12-2015 05:21 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  1. Does God have a name?

In my opinion God's name is not the most important thing. What's more important is the way we conduct our lives. However The Creator has given us a name to call him by, thus providing a method to talk to God in a more personal manner.

Although God has many titles, he has only one name.

Verily I say to you, thy name is Bob.

[Image: bob2_1.jpg]





(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  Please Google JW Bible Answers for accurate information regarding God and Life..

That ain't happening. I can interpret that shit all by myself just fine, skippy. Don't need no commentary from the peanut gallery.




I thought gods name was Howard. Consider


But as if to knock me down, reality came around
And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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27-12-2015, 05:44 PM
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You should learn critical thinking skills and use them to examine your beliefs. Your condition might then improve.

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27-12-2015, 05:45 PM
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Here is a link to all the times the JW's have predicted the *end*, and been WRONG about it. They really need to find another line of work. They lost their credibility a LONG time ago.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1800s.php

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27-12-2015, 05:47 PM
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(27-12-2015 05:41 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(27-12-2015 05:21 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Verily I say to you, thy name is Bob.

[Image: bob2_1.jpg]






That ain't happening. I can interpret that shit all by myself just fine, skippy. Don't need no commentary from the peanut gallery.




I thought gods name was Howard. Consider

Moe, Curly, or Shemp?
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