Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
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28-12-2015, 09:48 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(28-12-2015 09:45 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(28-12-2015 09:30 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Is this one of those religious trolls that I hear so much about?

This is the drive-by variety. Register, post a wall of unsupported assertions, usually copied from some apologetics website, then never return or read any of the responses so that your views never have to be challenged.

Repeat at any site you can find...
http://www.debate.org/forums/religion/topic/79382/
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TOK1KP363VD8LOHUG

Congratulate yourself on spreading the word to the ignorant atheists.

Accomplish only showing people questioning their beliefs how weak your arguments are as they get picked apart line by line.
Unfortunately it was all for not because he will probably never read it. He is busy posting the same thing on about a dozen other sites.
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28-12-2015, 09:59 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(28-12-2015 09:48 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(28-12-2015 09:45 AM)unfogged Wrote:  This is the drive-by variety. Register, post a wall of unsupported assertions, usually copied from some apologetics website, then never return or read any of the responses so that your views never have to be challenged.

Repeat at any site you can find...
http://www.debate.org/forums/religion/topic/79382/
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TOK1KP363VD8LOHUG

Congratulate yourself on spreading the word to the ignorant atheists.

Accomplish only showing people questioning their beliefs how weak your arguments are as they get picked apart line by line.
Unfortunately it was all for not because he will probably never read it. He is busy posting the same thing on about a dozen other sites.

It isn't all for naught though... other people questioning read the replies and I'd bet that the number who see that the arguments are weak, if not just wrong, is greater than the number who think that the OP has a point. It also gives us heathens the chance to hone our skills at recognizing and countering bad arguments (although this one was a particularly weak set). The Verminator may not benefit from it but others do.

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28-12-2015, 10:00 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(28-12-2015 09:48 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(28-12-2015 09:45 AM)unfogged Wrote:  This is the drive-by variety. Register, post a wall of unsupported assertions, usually copied from some apologetics website, then never return or read any of the responses so that your views never have to be challenged.

Repeat at any site you can find...
http://www.debate.org/forums/religion/topic/79382/
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TOK1KP363VD8LOHUG

Congratulate yourself on spreading the word to the ignorant atheists.

Accomplish only showing people questioning their beliefs how weak your arguments are as they get picked apart line by line.
Unfortunately it was all for not because he will probably never read it. He is busy posting the same thing on about a dozen other sites.

*naught

That's SOP for the drive-bys.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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28-12-2015, 10:02 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(28-12-2015 09:48 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(28-12-2015 09:45 AM)unfogged Wrote:  This is the drive-by variety. Register, post a wall of unsupported assertions, usually copied from some apologetics website, then never return or read any of the responses so that your views never have to be challenged.

Repeat at any site you can find...
http://www.debate.org/forums/religion/topic/79382/
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TOK1KP363VD8LOHUG

Congratulate yourself on spreading the word to the ignorant atheists.

Accomplish only showing people questioning their beliefs how weak your arguments are as they get picked apart line by line.
Unfortunately it was all for not because he will probably never read it. He is busy posting the same thing on about a dozen other sites.

He posted the same shit in the Gamespot website. Off topic section. Pathetic Facepalm

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28-12-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
Fuck, looks like I'm late to the party.

Is there any pizza left?

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28-12-2015, 10:06 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
There is no god, Period.

Get over it. Once you're dead, you're dead.

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28-12-2015, 10:08 AM (This post was last modified: 28-12-2015 10:21 AM by DerFish.)
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(27-12-2015 03:56 PM)Joshua_Verum Wrote:  1. Does God have a name?

In my opinion God's name is not the most important thing. What's more important is the way we conduct our lives. However The Creator has given us a name to call him by, thus providing a method to talk to God in a more personal manner.

Although God has many titles, he has only one name. In each language, it is pronounced differently. In English it is usually pronounced “Jehovah.” But some people pronounce it “Yahweh.” (Psalm 83:18)

God’s name has been taken out of many Bibles and replaced with the titles Lord or God. But when the Bible was written, it contained God’s name some 7,000 times. Jesus made God’s name known when he taught people about God. (John 17:26)

2. What is God like?

God is love. He cares about us all deeply and wishes that not one of us take the path of destruction. (Peter 3:9) We can discern God’s personality from the things he has created and the emotions we possess. For instance, the variety of fruits, flowers and animals, the beautiful landscapes and the warm sun that accompanies them. Joyful tears, love, kindness, compassion etc etc tells us of his love and wisdom. The size of the universe tells us of his power. (Romans 1:20) Jehovah knows us better than we know ourselves. He knows exactly how many hairs we have on our head. (Luke 12:7)

Jehovah creates rules not for his own benefit, but for ours. If we follow the rules outlined in the Bible. It helps to prevent us from experiencing the pain and darkness of this temporary system of things.

We can learn even more about God’s personality by reading the Bible. For example, it tells us what God likes and what he does not like, how he treats people, and how he reacts in different situations. (Psalm 103:7-10)

3. How can we draw closer to God?

In-order to draw close to the creator of the universe. We need to try and show Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

Jehovah invites us to draw close to him by speaking to him in prayer. He is interested in us individually. (Psalm 65:2; 145:18) He is willing to forgive. He recognizes our efforts to please him, even if we sometimes fail. So despite our imperfection, we really can enjoy a close relationship with God. (Psalm 103:12-14, James 4:8)


4. Why does God Allow Suffering?

All of Jehovah’s works are perfect; he is not the author of unrighteousness; so he did not create anyone wicked. (Deut. 32:4, Ps. 5:4) The one who became Satan was originally a perfect spirit son of God. When saying that the Devil “did not stand fast in the truth,” Jesus indicated that at one time that one was “in the truth.” (John 8:44) But, as is true of all of God’s intelligent creatures, this spirit son was endowed with free will. He abused his freedom of choice, allowed feelings of self-importance to develop in his heart, began to crave worship that belonged only to God, and so enticed Adam and Eve to listen to him rather than obey God. Thus by his course of action he made himself Satan, which means “adversary.” (Jas. 1:14, 15)

Why did not God destroy Satan promptly after he rebelled?

Serious issues were raised by Satan: (1) The righteousness and rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty. Was Jehovah withholding from mankind freedom that would contribute to their happiness? Were mankind’s ability to govern their affairs successfully and their continued life truly dependent on their obedience to God? Had Jehovah been dishonest in giving a law that stated that disobedience would lead to their death? (Gen. 2:16, 17, 3:3-5) So, did Jehovah really have the right to rule? (2) The integrity of intelligent creatures toward Jehovah. By the deflection of Adam and Eve the question was raised: Did Jehovah’s servants really obey him out of love or might all of them abandon God and follow the lead being given by Satan? This latter issue was further developed by Satan in the days of Job. (Gen. 3:6, Job 1:8-11, 2:3-5 see also Luke 22:31) These issues could not be settled by merely executing the rebels.

5. Is the end of the world really near?

THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “When you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near.” (LUKE 21:31)

The Bible prophets were inspired by God to describe conditions that would indicate an imminent end of the world. Consider some of those prophecies and decide for yourself whether they are being fulfilled in our time.

Wars, famines, earthquakes, and epidemics of deadly disease. (Matthew 24:7, Luke 21:11)

Significant increase in crime. (Matthew 24:12)

The ruining of the earth by mankind. (Revelation 11:18)

People who love themselves, money, and pleasures but do not love God. (2 Timothy 3:2, 4)

The breakdown of the family. (2 Timothy 3:2, 3)

General apathy toward the evidence of the approaching end. (Matthew 24:37-39)

The preaching of the good news of God’s Kingdom worldwide. (Matthew 24:14)


As Jesus said, seeing “all these things” lets us know that the end of the world is near. (Matthew 24:33) Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the evidence is convincing, and they share their faith with others by preaching in 236 lands.

6. What happens at the end of the world?

THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “The world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever.” (1 John 2:17)

“The world” that is to pass away is, not the earth, but the world of mankind whose lives are not in harmony with God’s will. Just as a surgeon might remove a cancerous tumor to save a patient’s life, God will “cut off” the wicked so that good people can truly enjoy life on earth. (Psalm 37:9) In that sense, “the end of the world” is a good thing.

Jesus called that future period “the renewal of all things.” At that time, he will restore humanity to the conditions that God originally intended. (Matthew 19:28) We will then enjoy

A paradise earth with security and prosperity for all. (Isaiah 35:1 Micah 4:4)

Work that is meaningful and satisfying. (Isaiah 65:21-23)

The curing of all disease. (Isaiah 33:24)

The reversal of aging. (Job 33:25)

The resurrection of the dead. (John 5:28, 29)


If we do “the will of God,” what he asks of us, we need not fear the end of the world. Instead, we can look forward to it.

7. Conclusion

We must try our best to help out our fellow humans and to love God as Jesus commanded.

We need to try and avoid harmful practices such as:
sexual immorality, greed, arrogance, hatred, selfishness, anger etc etc

Save your naughty side for the bedroom with someone you love.

Greed has crumbled entire empires, how more so can it destroy individuals.

Arrogance is a ugly trait and is often used to compensate for lacking confidence or inner-peace. The most respected and talented people are often the most humble.

Hatred is a horrible trait and leads to nothing good. We must look for the goodness in people and understand we all have feelings, and we're all victims of imperfections that cause us to act in unreasonable ways from time to time.

Selfishness is a lack of love for people. And although in this evil world it can feel like everyone is a backstabbing traitor and the best course of action is to take care of yourself and forget everyone else. We must fight the urge to lose confidence in all human-kind and realize there are loving, awesome people out there who need our help.

Anger is another undesirable trait that solves nothing, and causes unnecessary stress. Passion is a different matter and is admirable.

We must try and promote values of righteousness including:
Love, Honour, Dignity, Loyalty, Humility, Integrity, and most importantly help out your fellow humans.

Religion, skin colour, wealth, beauty, power etc are irrelevant. Your heart is all that matters

Please Google JW Bible Answers for accurate information regarding God and Life..

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28-12-2015, 10:12 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(28-12-2015 10:04 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Fuck, looks like I'm late to the party.

Is there any pizza left?

Dog ate it.

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28-12-2015, 10:13 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(28-12-2015 10:12 AM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  
(28-12-2015 10:04 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Fuck, looks like I'm late to the party.

Is there any pizza left?

Dog ate it.

Fucking dog... Dodgy

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28-12-2015, 10:17 AM
RE: Who Is God? Why Does He Allow Suffering? And When Will It End?
(28-12-2015 09:45 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(28-12-2015 09:30 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Is this one of those religious trolls that I hear so much about?

This is the drive-by variety. Register, post a wall of unsupported assertions, usually copied from some apologetics website, then never return or read any of the responses so that your views never have to be challenged.

Repeat at any site you can find...
http://www.debate.org/forums/religion/topic/79382/
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TOK1KP363VD8LOHUG

Congratulate yourself on spreading the word to the ignorant atheists.

Accomplish only showing people questioning their beliefs how weak your arguments are as they get picked apart line by line.

You forgot the most important step:

Advertise the link you want people to click on (ie, spamming).

Because really, the whole OP was just one big ad for the JW site. Which is why Stark's first reaction as a responsible mod was to delete it.

(But then he realized we'd been a while without a good chew toy. Yay Stark!)

(28-12-2015 10:04 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Fuck, looks like I'm late to the party.

Is there any pizza left?

Nope! But if you go over to Pachomius's thread there's an endless word salad buffet!

... no, really, you'll end up feeling buffeted by it.
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