Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
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14-05-2013, 05:27 PM (This post was last modified: 14-05-2013 05:31 PM by fstratzero.)
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
(12-05-2013 06:39 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(12-05-2013 05:43 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  If I understood your post, the fact the Soviets lost the most troops is irrelevant. What is relevant is the Soviets were the first to enter Berlin. So if it was a race, the Soviets won. But it was not a race. It was a war between the Axis and the Allies. (Good game, by the way). The Allies won the war.

But...


Hitler was a puppet of the Al Queda to fabricate a story about killing a few Jews in order to establish another puppet state in the Middle East so that the media could tell us that the French women needed to shave their armpits.

So who won the war? French men and the CIA.

Hitler did have his version of alqaeda, it was called the Muslim brotherhood. Yes that's right kids, the Muslim brother hood worked with nazi germany to combat communist influence in Muslim territories. After ww2 the Muslim brotherhood worked with England and the U.S., to counter communist influence. A simple google search of Muslim brotherhood and nazis one can read about it. The Muslim brotherhood has been bitches for the west long before alqaeda was formed by the CIA.

WTF

How does that even make sense? You do realize Middle eastern countries are largely socialist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party

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14-05-2013, 05:45 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
(14-05-2013 05:27 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  
(12-05-2013 06:39 PM)I and I Wrote:  Hitler did have his version of alqaeda, it was called the Muslim brotherhood. Yes that's right kids, the Muslim brother hood worked with nazi germany to combat communist influence in Muslim territories. After ww2 the Muslim brotherhood worked with England and the U.S., to counter communist influence. A simple google search of Muslim brotherhood and nazis one can read about it. The Muslim brotherhood has been bitches for the west long before alqaeda was formed by the CIA.

WTF

How does that even make sense? You do realize Middle eastern countries are largely socialist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party

WTF indeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_...#1928-1938

Muslim Brotherhood as agents for the nazis and western interests.

What does the baath party have to do with the Muslim Brotherhood?
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14-05-2013, 09:22 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
The Muslim Brotherhood in the 30s and 40s - like many, many organizations active around the world at the time - operated on one principle: anyone not actively occupying and oppressing us is our friend.

Let's head back to the 1930s. With the British and French still kicking around the region, trying to party like it's 1899, the new ideas of fascism and socialism (this was LONG before the crimes of the various dictatorships were known) were extremely appealing to a lot of people. When you're stuck at the bottom of the colonial ladder, well, shit, a new world order has got to sound pretty appealing. It couldn't well be worse for you! And YES (sigh), there was a lot of anti-Jewish sentiment in parts (here is where the term 'anti-semite' becomes hilarious, given that Arabs are semitic...).

Afterwards, the people in charge (as much in charge as one COULD be in the immediate post-war world, given that independence was often only on paper if that) were - post-war - in a position where the communists were the greater of two evils. That didn't last, mind, and most of the arab world leaned Soviet by the end of the 60s (and hell, most had revolutions of one degree or another).

Less "let's sell out to whoever's buying" than "let's accept the backing of the least objectionable outsider".
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14-05-2013, 09:34 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
(14-05-2013 05:45 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(14-05-2013 05:27 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  WTF

How does that even make sense? You do realize Middle eastern countries are largely socialist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party

WTF indeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_...#1928-1938

Muslim Brotherhood as agents for the nazis and western interests.

What does the baath party have to do with the Muslim Brotherhood?

Thanks I didn't know that!

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14-05-2013, 11:11 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
(14-05-2013 09:34 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  
(14-05-2013 05:45 PM)I and I Wrote:  WTF indeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_...#1928-1938

Muslim Brotherhood as agents for the nazis and western interests.

What does the baath party have to do with the Muslim Brotherhood?

Thanks I didn't know that!

Here is a blog written about the Muslim Brotherhoods history after WW2, there are links throughout the blog. The Muslim brotherhood being the spearhead of the "arab spring" makes the events of the "arab spring" look like......well you get the picture.
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15-05-2013, 11:50 AM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
All of the allies working together defeated the Germans.

You don't get extra credit for more casualties.

Most of the casualties were non-combatants.

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15-05-2013, 12:21 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
(15-05-2013 11:50 AM)Abdul Alhazred Wrote:  All of the allies working together defeated the Germans.

You don't get extra credit for more casualties.

Most of the casualties were non-combatants.

The largest battles were fought by the Soviets and won by the Soviets, thus having a much larger role in defeating Germany. The Soviets were already on their way to Berlin by the time the U.S. finally got around to starting a european offensive.
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15-05-2013, 12:24 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
(15-05-2013 12:21 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(15-05-2013 11:50 AM)Abdul Alhazred Wrote:  All of the allies working together defeated the Germans.

You don't get extra credit for more casualties.

Most of the casualties were non-combatants.

The largest battles were fought by the Soviets and won by the Soviets, thus having a much larger role in defeating Germany. The Soviets were already on their way to Berlin by the time the U.S. finally got around to starting a european offensive.

Allied strategic bombing destroyed Germany's ability to continue waging effective warfare.
There were many factors involved, not just your hero Stalin.

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15-05-2013, 12:50 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
(15-05-2013 12:24 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(15-05-2013 12:21 PM)I and I Wrote:  The largest battles were fought by the Soviets and won by the Soviets, thus having a much larger role in defeating Germany. The Soviets were already on their way to Berlin by the time the U.S. finally got around to starting a european offensive.

Allied strategic bombing destroyed Germany's ability to continue waging effective warfare.
There were many factors involved, not just your hero Stalin.

Were the U.S. and british boming german military that were in the Soviet Union?
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15-05-2013, 12:53 PM
RE: Who defeated the Germans? The Soviet Union or the other allies?
They were bombing German resources that would otherwise be in the Soviet Union you stupid fuck.

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