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07-12-2013, 08:12 PM
RE: Who humiliated David Cameron ? What do you think ?
David Cameron.

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07-12-2013, 08:19 PM
RE: Who humiliated David Cameron ? What do you think ?
(07-12-2013 08:08 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 07:35 PM)Chas Wrote:  Tibet is not part of China, regardless of the opinion of 1.3 billion Chinese. Only the people of Tibet have a lawful say in that.

I respectfully suggest that 1.3 billion Chinese go fuck themselves.

Chas, whether we or anybody else likes it or not, when it comes to territory force of arms has the right of way and the power of decision.

I said 'lawful'. And the ChiCom was trying to make their aggression justified.

The ChiCom can go fuck himself.

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07-12-2013, 08:24 PM
RE: Who humiliated David Cameron ? What do you think ?
(07-12-2013 08:19 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 08:08 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  Chas, whether we or anybody else likes it or not, when it comes to territory force of arms has the right of way and the power of decision.

I said 'lawful'. And the ChiCom was trying to make their aggression justified.

The ChiCom can go fuck himself.

It's how things work; I can't really think of a single lawful national land-grab in history.

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07-12-2013, 08:25 PM
RE: Who humiliated David Cameron ? What do you think ?
(07-12-2013 08:24 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 08:19 PM)Chas Wrote:  I said 'lawful'. And the ChiCom was trying to make their aggression justified.

The ChiCom can go fuck himself.

It's how things work; I can't really think of a single lawful national land-grab in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase

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07-12-2013, 08:27 PM
RE: Who humiliated David Cameron ? What do you think ?
(07-12-2013 08:24 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 08:19 PM)Chas Wrote:  I said 'lawful'. And the ChiCom was trying to make their aggression justified.

The ChiCom can go fuck himself.

It's how things work; I can't really think of a single lawful national land-grab in history.

There are many examples of an aggressor nation losing territory in a war. Serves them right.

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07-12-2013, 08:30 PM
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(07-12-2013 08:25 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 08:24 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  It's how things work; I can't really think of a single lawful national land-grab in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase

Pretty sure there is a significant difference between purchasing land from another nation and taking it by force, should have made that more clear.

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07-12-2013, 08:33 PM
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(07-12-2013 08:30 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 08:25 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase

Pretty sure there is a significant difference between purchasing land from another nation and taking it by force, should have made that more clear.

You said land grab and that was the biggest in history. What followed was genocide of the native peoples and near extinction for the majority of the native species but it was all done completely legally.

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07-12-2013, 08:35 PM
RE: Who humiliated David Cameron ? What do you think ?
(07-12-2013 08:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 08:24 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  It's how things work; I can't really think of a single lawful national land-grab in history.

There are many examples of an aggressor nation losing territory in a war. Serves them right.

That's at least slightly justified; compensation but it's not really when I had in mind when I said 'land-grabs'. I was thinking on the lines of China-Tibet, where the 'land-grab' was a military takeover of another nation or it's territory...

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07-12-2013, 08:37 PM
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(07-12-2013 08:33 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 08:30 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  Pretty sure there is a significant difference between purchasing land from another nation and taking it by force, should have made that more clear.

You said land grab and that was the biggest in history. What followed was genocide of the native peoples and near extinction for the majority of the native species but it was all done completely legally.

Touché, Mr. Salesman. I'll try to be more careful with my words in the future.

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07-12-2013, 08:44 PM
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(07-12-2013 07:35 PM)Chas Wrote:  Tibet is not part of China, regardless of the opinion of 1.3 billion Chinese. Only the people of Tibet have a lawful say in that. I respectfully suggest that 1.3 billion Chinese go fuck themselves.

Chas, I agree with you completely. But here's a question. Do you agree this should apply universally? That Québec should be allowed to secede if a majority of Québécois want to, regardless of the rest of Canada? And that Texas should be allowed to secede if a majority of Texans want to, regardless of the rest of the USA?

If so, then you agree with me that Obama was wrong to say that Texas is not allowed to secede, just like the Chinese are wrong to say Tibet is not allowed to do so?
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