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04-04-2016, 08:40 PM
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04-04-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: Who is your hero?
(04-04-2016 08:15 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 07:26 PM)Fireball Wrote:  Why didn't you take the cattle car to the chow hall? Food be free and shit, there.

I was at the shipyards in downtown Newport News, VA. There was no chow hall. There was no cattle car. The only restaurants within walking distance were crawling with cockroaches...literally. I stepped on one while eating at the local Chinese place, and there was one crushed and stuck to the side of my coke at the Greek place. The only place that had decent tasting food was a place we called "Fast Eddies" which was ran by Chinese women who spoke very little English who served greasy burgers and french fries. It was good, cheap, and terrible for you. She was presumably not Eddie. No matter what you ordered the total was "5 dollar", including tax. What are the odds? Big Grin It probably had cockroaches too, but I never saw them. Looked dirty as hell.

Here are the reviews, looks like shit ain't changed much Big Grin
http://www.yelp.com/biz/eddies-restaurants-newport-news

OK, I got out of the Nav 40 YA this July. I guess things have changed, and not for the better. I worked as a contractor to the Air Force at Cape Canaveral for a little over 2-1/2 years, and they had Burglar King and that kind of stuff on base; not a chow hall, or whatever the AF would call it. Not that great food, and surly help. We used to go to the NASA side; that cafeteria was light years ahead of the AF eatery. It is a crying shame that our servicemen have to put up with that. I think most of them ate in town, anyway. Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach. Lots of clean places.
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04-04-2016, 09:32 PM
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(04-04-2016 09:10 PM)Fireball Wrote:  OK, I got out of the Nav 40 YA this July. I guess things have changed, and not for the better. I worked as a contractor to the Air Force at Cape Canaveral for a little over 2-1/2 years, and they had Burglar King and that kind of stuff on base; not a chow hall, or whatever the AF would call it. Not that great food, and surly help. We used to go to the NASA side; that cafeteria was light years ahead of the AF eatery. It is a crying shame that our servicemen have to put up with that. I think most of them ate in town, anyway. Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach. Lots of clean places.

Haliburton needs to pick up their act. After all, is it not they who hold the contracts to serve all US military bases worldwide? And they won't even give servicemen decent food?

One wonders why they are paid so much? Drinking Beverage

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04-04-2016, 10:09 PM
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(04-04-2016 09:32 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 09:10 PM)Fireball Wrote:  OK, I got out of the Nav 40 YA this July. I guess things have changed, and not for the better. I worked as a contractor to the Air Force at Cape Canaveral for a little over 2-1/2 years, and they had Burglar King and that kind of stuff on base; not a chow hall, or whatever the AF would call it. Not that great food, and surly help. We used to go to the NASA side; that cafeteria was light years ahead of the AF eatery. It is a crying shame that our servicemen have to put up with that. I think most of them ate in town, anyway. Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach. Lots of clean places.

Haliburton needs to pick up their act. After all, is it not they who hold the contracts to serve all US military bases worldwide? And they won't even give servicemen decent food?

One wonders why they are paid so much? Drinking Beverage

I don't know that Haliburton serves food at, say, Cape Canaveral. After all, it was a Burger King. Maybe Haliburton has some sort of pull with the chain restaurants? No idea on that. That's a paranoid rabbit hole I'm not going to dive into.
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04-04-2016, 10:59 PM
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04-04-2016, 11:19 PM
RE: Who is your hero?
(04-04-2016 10:09 PM)Fireball Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 09:32 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Haliburton needs to pick up their act. After all, is it not they who hold the contracts to serve all US military bases worldwide? And they won't even give servicemen decent food?

One wonders why they are paid so much? Drinking Beverage

I don't know that Haliburton serves food at, say, Cape Canaveral. After all, it was a Burger King. Maybe Haliburton has some sort of pull with the chain restaurants? No idea on that. That's a paranoid rabbit hole I'm not going to dive into.

I'd say someone like BK would rent the space. But from whom? Blink

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05-04-2016, 01:14 AM
RE: Who is your hero?
(04-04-2016 08:15 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 07:26 PM)Fireball Wrote:  Why didn't you take the cattle car to the chow hall? Food be free and shit, there.

I was at the shipyards in downtown Newport News, VA. There was no chow hall. There was no cattle car. The only restaurants within walking distance were crawling with cockroaches...literally. I stepped on one while eating at the local Chinese place, and there was one crushed and stuck to the side of my coke at the Greek place.

And the chow hall's got roaches that would scare the bastards downtown anyway.
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05-04-2016, 01:59 AM
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Tough question. This is so difficult for me to answer. We each have our own motivations for said heroic actions. If I see a child drowning and fail to act despite great personal risk to myself, can I live with the consequences of knowing that I possibly could have saved that child's life and didn't even try? Is it heroic if I have no option but to perform said act? If it's no risk to myself and I save the child's life, is my action still heroic? Wouldn't most people act? If it's above and beyond, is it from stupidity or the enjoyment of the rush as an adrenaline junkie? Or what about perseverance, such as one's battle with illness? Does perseverance a hero make?

My ex husband could be considered a hero. He has put countless child molesters in jail, found the locations of and busted child pornography rings, just to name a few of his actions. It's a job. He's paid to do it, although he will certainly never make very much from it. He derives great personal satisfaction from putting those sick fucks behind bars. That part makes me hesitate to call him a hero - he does it because he wants to, because he likes it. However, it does come at great personal sacrifice. The images he's had to see, the footage he's had to pour through to make the cases to obtain arrest warrants... However, there comes a point where you become numb. I'm well versed on coping mechanisms - those first cases are the true struggles, that leave the lasting scars.

Ask a first responder what the worst thing they've seen is - they're probably not going to tell you the truth or just halfway answer your question, unless you, too, are a first responder and they're in a place where they feel comfortable opening up (be careful asking that question...some of them have encountered real life horrors that have left deep scars - hell, even I have trouble answering that question and will evade the hell out of it when working or at a party - I can't afford to let it to the forefront, I have to be able to function). Maybe check out some blogs to get honest answers, with vivid descriptors. I've taken care of patients that came from scenes where some of the firefighters were puking at the sight of the dead children they couldn't save (Jesus fucking Christ if I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times - put your baby in a goddamn car seat. I don't care if you're just driving to the end of your driveway). I've seen many pale faced paramedics who break down the moment they leave the trauma room.

If it doesn't leave you with PTSD or dead, I may hesitate to call you a hero. I often consider someone a hero if they made a great personal sacrifice to have went out of their way for someone else. Actions that make death certain, near certain or are so disturbing as to cause PTSD. The "lets roll" guys in the plane on 9/11 that rushed the hijackers...are they heroes? I think so - there were several other planes that day that hit their targets, so clearly their actions really weren't what most would do. If it were, all of the planes would have gone down prematurely, the towers would still be standing, the pentagon would not have been hit, and there would be thousands more Americans alive today.

Admiration, though, there are a great number of people I admire...a few I hold in high esteem (Banjo - just, wow - definitely a role model, an inspiration, a person that helps you change your entire outlook on life - which is the part that I think makes him a hero).

It's so subjective. It depends on your vantage point, I suppose. If I'm the child in the water facing most certain death (that was me at age four), then the person who rescues me (my uncle) is most definitely my hero, whether it was a sacrifice or not (he knew how to swim...albeit the waters were murky and I was getting tossed about on the sand in the Gulf of Mexico). If I have a new diagnosis of cancer and don't know how my life is going to go on, and I see Banjo facing death with the middle finger - yeh, he's my hero, maybe gives enough of a morale boost to save my life by giving me the courage to fight or die trying. The vigilant, caring nurses that ensured Banjo would make it alive until the end of their shift, where something as simple as good hygiene with proper technique is truly a matter of life and death (I could write a book on that - wiping back to front can sign a patient's death certificate), just as maintaining a positive, healthy mileu (Ive been known to kick out Debbie downers - you're not helping my patient's chance of survival) yeh, they're his heroes, although to them it was probably just another exhausting day on the job.

Banjo, I'm waaaay too passionate about my job to be a hero; I get too much benefit and meaning from it, both from my income and the satisfaction of knowing my actions made an impact in someone's life. I love it (especially here lately) and do it willingly - so much that I won't be able to wear mascara when I turn in my notice (I'm tearing up now just thinking about leaving). I actually call it playing (really, I tell people I play in the ER now), because I enjoy the excitement, the variability and unknowns, my coworkers, the diversity of people from the famous that probably every person on this forum would recognize to the homeless trying to get out of the cold for a few hours.

One of my best friends just donated her kidney to a toddler with prune belly. She thought it was god's will. Is she a hero? Foolish? I dunno. Certainly a life saver, for now at least.


tl;dr sooo subjective. I dunno. I guess my uncle is my hero - he saved me from drowning in the Gulf of Mexico, although his actions were not altogether heroic, as he was not at personal risk.
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05-04-2016, 02:10 AM
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(05-04-2016 01:59 AM)Nurse Wrote:  Banjo, I'm waaaay too passionate about my job to be a hero; I get too much benefit and meaning from it, both from my income and the satisfaction of knowing my actions made an impact in someone's life.

And that is why you are a hero of mine.

I've seen it oh so many times. From the young nurse, Lydia, who dived beneath me. I watched carefully as these awesome people did their jobs. Often while being abused. Even punched! (There is a psych ward across the road from the hospital). Yet they carry on. The mental and physical strain must be astounding.

And thank you for your kind words. I will continue to fight. There is little else to do. Smile

With sincere love and appreciation. Dale.

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05-04-2016, 11:11 AM
RE: Who is your hero?
(04-04-2016 09:10 PM)Fireball Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 08:15 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  I was at the shipyards in downtown Newport News, VA. There was no chow hall. There was no cattle car. The only restaurants within walking distance were crawling with cockroaches...literally. I stepped on one while eating at the local Chinese place, and there was one crushed and stuck to the side of my coke at the Greek place. The only place that had decent tasting food was a place we called "Fast Eddies" which was ran by Chinese women who spoke very little English who served greasy burgers and french fries. It was good, cheap, and terrible for you. She was presumably not Eddie. No matter what you ordered the total was "5 dollar", including tax. What are the odds? Big Grin It probably had cockroaches too, but I never saw them. Looked dirty as hell.

Here are the reviews, looks like shit ain't changed much Big Grin
http://www.yelp.com/biz/eddies-restaurants-newport-news

OK, I got out of the Nav 40 YA this July. I guess things have changed, and not for the better. I worked as a contractor to the Air Force at Cape Canaveral for a little over 2-1/2 years, and they had Burglar King and that kind of stuff on base; not a chow hall, or whatever the AF would call it. Not that great food, and surly help. We used to go to the NASA side; that cafeteria was light years ahead of the AF eatery. It is a crying shame that our servicemen have to put up with that. I think most of them ate in town, anyway. Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach. Lots of clean places.

At that point in my career I was attached to a pre-commissioned unit. We were stationed to a ship that was not on a base. The Navy only owned the barracks and the ship. The rest was civilian-owned or owned by Northrop Grumman. The barracks was awful to. They took an abandoned high-school, then converted it into a barracks of sorts. The place was falling apart at the seams. I heard the government condemned the building shortly after we moved to Norfolk. The whole area was more dangerous than half of the "warzones" I was in. During the 1.5ish years I was at the shipyards at least two sailors were shot by thugs, one was bitten by a homeless woman, one was stabbed by a homeless woman, one group of women was alleged to have been attacked by a "lesbian gang" that was purportedly living in the same apartment building from which the Navy had rented rooms after they could literally not cram any more of us into the "barracks" (that was the scuttlebutt anyway). Another sailor was stabbed by a homeless woman. Our vault (where I worked) was shot up in a drive-by. Dozens of people had their vehicles broken into. I (and another sailor) was personally threatened by a group of black females for being the wrong color in the wrong place at the wrong time. The funny thing is, the other sailor was a Mexican American, but that didn't prevent him from being classified as a "white boy". To call the place a shithole wouldn't do it justice. Half of the business in the area were "blacklisted". Don't know if that was such a thing 40 years back.

Looks like things have "improved" for the year of 2016. No shootings for the year so far anyway. Here it is. Big Grin

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