Who was Saint Paul?
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14-12-2012, 12:18 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul?
I feel little warmth for him, nor do I like his message, which has made it hard for me to be objective. He had an incessant self-righteous manner. His ideas were irritatingly convoluted and his ethics depraved. He deliberately distorted the Nazarenes’ beliefs with his own. He was a man intent on manipulating people and shoring up his own status, and all this is very unattractive.It’s easy to be critical of characters if we don’t understand their world from their perspective, so I tried to do so. I spent many months reading his letters, and books and articles, expecting to find some redeeming features, but there are few to be found. To put Paul’s Christology in perspective, we should consider his complete lack of credentials. His legitimacy rested solely on his claim that God had revealed everything to him, an extremely weak argument. Christian history is littered with charismatic cult leaders who have thought or pretended that God talked to them. They’ve usually spent their youth studying scripture, started their own sect, and then tried to control everyone in it, which is precisely what Paul attempted. It turned out he started a rather large sect. Paul’s “good news” defines today’s Christianity, yet it was contrived to be attractive and easy to sell. He claimed Christ was the Son of God crucified by the Jews as a sacrifice to make up for humanity’s sins, and it was imperative to have faith in this to get into heaven. These innovative ideas were unknown to John the Baptist and Yeshua, and repugnant to James, Peter, the other disciples, and the entire Jewish nation. Paul met James and Peter, but thought they had “nothing to add to the good news I preach.” They were messianic Jews who Paul knew opposed Roman rule, so he berated their beliefs and promoted his own. The Nazarenes eventually managed to neutralize him.He was cunning, opportunistic, and manipulative, and cleverly tailored all his innovative arguments to suit whichever community he was writing to. He invented long-winded waffling tales about his own credibility, God, heaven, Christ, Jews, and gentiles, and they don’t make sense. Paul knew nothing of a Jesus born to a virgin, the preacher who could cater for a crowd with a few loaves and fishes, command graves to open, cast out devils, walk on water, or cure leprosy. He never met Yeshua, or described him. Paul teaches us more about Yeshua by what he doesn’t say than what he does. He indirectly proved that the Gospels are mainly mythical. My theory is that Paul’s Christ figure was someone else who has since been retrofitted into the gospel stories, probably sometime in the second century. This “cut and paste job” is obvious once one has been made aware of it. Nearly all Christians aren’t, but that isn’t their fault. They’ve been lied to.There was no such thing as a New Testament in Paul’s time, so he couldn’t possibly have presumed his own writings were scripture.He was overtly misogynistic, homophobic, and had a neurotic loathing of sexuality. He thought he was an authority on the afterlife, work place relations, the status of women, what to wear, when to eat, when to have sex, whom to keep company with, the role of government…and the list goes on. Today’s preachers promote these pathetic prejudices to justify their own.Paul was a product of the gentile world, and was probably a government propagandist employed to undermine and report on problematic Jews. He took his job very seriously. He became so obsessed with promoting propaganda he probably started to believe his own spiel. His job gave him power, prestige, and a platform to preach his bigoted ethics, and that was attractive to a man who was a social misfit. If he’d lived in modern times, he’d be given a gold watch for his time in the public service, put on a pension, ushered out the door, and the whole office would be glad to see his back.His writings became important when they were promoted by some second century Christians. They had to jettison the archaic Judaic law to be popular with gentiles, and Paul’s ideas justified just that. This was why the author of the book of Acts (discussed next) invented stories about him to bolster his legitimacy. This imaginative raconteur became the most influential theologian of all. Christianity became Paul’s baby, although dad didn’t know what a monster his progeny would grow in to. I think his letters just happened to grab the imagination of the market, a most unfortunate quirk of history. His awful prejudices will continue to poison people if they aren’t recognized for what they are.

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RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 28-11-2012, 10:28 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 28-11-2012, 10:34 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 02:27 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 28-11-2012, 04:02 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 28-11-2012, 06:57 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 28-11-2012, 09:32 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 02:02 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 29-11-2012, 10:49 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 29-11-2012, 10:55 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 29-11-2012, 11:30 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 29-11-2012, 02:12 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 29-11-2012, 02:51 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 29-11-2012, 03:06 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 29-11-2012, 12:54 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 08:37 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 29-11-2012, 03:06 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 08:11 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Chas - 29-11-2012, 08:34 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 08:58 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Chas - 29-11-2012, 09:03 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 09:23 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 08:44 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 29-11-2012, 08:52 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 29-11-2012, 09:02 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 09:09 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 30-11-2012, 09:19 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 01:33 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 30-11-2012, 02:23 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 02:33 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - fstratzero - 30-11-2012, 05:38 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 02:36 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 30-11-2012, 02:39 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 29-11-2012, 10:36 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 01:10 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 01:35 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 01:49 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 08:30 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 30-11-2012, 09:18 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 30-11-2012, 06:15 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 06:43 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 30-11-2012, 07:11 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 08:06 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 08:34 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - fstratzero - 30-11-2012, 07:34 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 09:07 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 10:07 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - fstratzero - 30-11-2012, 10:35 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 10:41 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - fstratzero - 30-11-2012, 11:57 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 07:05 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 30-11-2012, 08:34 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 08:27 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 30-11-2012, 08:32 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 30-11-2012, 11:13 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 01-12-2012, 05:29 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 01-12-2012, 04:35 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 04:52 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 05:33 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 05:51 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - houseofcantor - 01-12-2012, 05:52 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 06:13 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 06:56 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 07:06 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 07:18 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 07:37 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 07:58 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 08:41 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 08:52 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 08:54 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 09:39 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 10:27 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 11:25 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 11:45 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 02-12-2012, 12:07 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 09:02 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 09:51 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 09:05 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 09:14 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 10:13 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 10:38 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 10:57 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 11:10 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Noelani - 02-12-2012, 01:44 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 02-12-2012, 03:12 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Noelani - 02-12-2012, 04:17 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 02-12-2012, 04:22 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 09:24 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 09:35 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 09:50 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 09:57 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 10:44 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 01-12-2012, 11:07 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 01-12-2012, 11:52 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 02-12-2012, 04:01 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 02-12-2012, 09:40 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 02-12-2012, 10:56 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 02-12-2012, 09:18 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 03-12-2012, 07:18 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 02-12-2012, 02:03 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 02-12-2012, 09:28 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 03-12-2012, 08:10 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 03-12-2012, 09:55 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Vosur - 03-12-2012, 11:36 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 03-12-2012, 11:47 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 03-12-2012, 12:16 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 03-12-2012, 01:56 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 03-12-2012, 02:08 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 03-12-2012, 08:15 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 03-12-2012, 08:24 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 03-12-2012, 11:16 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 04-12-2012, 10:22 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 04-12-2012, 07:55 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 04-12-2012, 08:48 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 04-12-2012, 10:36 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 05-12-2012, 12:22 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 05-12-2012, 09:08 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 05-12-2012, 02:46 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 05-12-2012, 05:22 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 05-12-2012, 08:20 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 05-12-2012, 08:52 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 06-12-2012, 12:54 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 05-12-2012, 05:29 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 05-12-2012, 07:02 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 05-12-2012, 09:58 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 05-12-2012, 10:01 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 05-12-2012, 10:41 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 05-12-2012, 11:02 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 06-12-2012, 02:49 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 06-12-2012, 11:08 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 06-12-2012, 07:54 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 07-12-2012, 02:43 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - LadyJane - 08-12-2012, 01:59 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 13-12-2012, 11:35 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 13-12-2012, 11:59 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 14-12-2012, 12:00 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - houseofcantor - 14-12-2012 12:18 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 14-12-2012, 01:28 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 14-12-2012, 11:23 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Mark Fulton - 15-12-2012, 03:43 AM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Free - 14-12-2012, 07:48 PM
RE: Who was Saint Paul? - Bucky Ball - 15-12-2012, 05:15 AM
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