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28-08-2015, 08:27 PM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 08:23 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:17 PM)Alla Wrote:  Rich guys Koch are bad because they donate to republicans.
Rich guy Soros is good because he donates to Dems.
Soros is evil rich guy, he is evil capitalist.

No no no.
Rich guys Koch are good because they donate to republicans.
Rich guy Soros is bad because he donates to Dems.
The Koch brothers and Trump are evil rich guy, they are evil capitalist.

There, fixed it for you.

Soros is evil capitalist. What would he do without capitalism? Socialists are hypocrites. They preach socialism while getting rich because of capitalism.
they preach income equality while live in big mansions and eat caviar with big spoons. hypocrites.

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28-08-2015, 08:28 PM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 08:22 PM)Alla Wrote:  BLACK LIES MATTER.
It is not racist it is the truth.
Honest black people agree with me.

Ahhh ... so if the nigger disagrees with you they aren't honest. Do you really not realize that what you just said is far more racist than Inigo's "some white guy"? That's what is really sad.

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28-08-2015, 08:30 PM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 08:27 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:23 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  No no no.
Rich guys Koch are good because they donate to republicans.
Rich guy Soros is bad because he donates to Dems.
The Koch brothers and Trump are evil rich guy, they are evil capitalist.

There, fixed it for you.

Soros is evil capitalist. What would he do without capitalism? Socialists are hypocrites. They preach socialism while getting rich because of capitalism.
they preach income equality while live in big mansions and eat caviar with big spoons. hypocrites.

So what you're saying is that since the Koch brothers and Trump are fascists instead of socialists they are not evil hypocrites?

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28-08-2015, 08:35 PM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 08:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:14 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  So you're saying black lives don't matter?
LIE, I never said this. I say that ALL lives matter.

You said black lives matter is a lie. That implies black lives don't matter. Here let me show you what you said just a few minutes ago because your short term memory seems to be on the fritz.

(28-08-2015 08:11 PM)Alla Wrote:  Black Lives Matter is a lie.

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28-08-2015, 08:47 PM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 08:27 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:23 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  No no no.
Rich guys Koch are good because they donate to republicans.
Rich guy Soros is bad because he donates to Dems.
The Koch brothers and Trump are evil rich guy, they are evil capitalist.

There, fixed it for you.

Soros is evil capitalist. What would he do without capitalism? Socialists are hypocrites. They preach socialism while getting rich because of capitalism.
they preach income equality while live in big mansions and eat caviar with big spoons. hypocrites.

You are sadly, possibly dangerously, but hilariously delusional. Laughat

You must be not very bright because you have swallowed all the catch phrases of the conservative/libertarian ideologues but can't actually connect the dots nor see the picture.

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28-08-2015, 09:58 PM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 08:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  LIE, I never said this. I say that ALL lives matter.
You said black lives matter is a lie.
That implies black lives don't matter. Here let me show you what you said just a few minutes ago because your short term memory seems to be on the fritz.

(28-08-2015 08:11 PM)Alla Wrote:  Black Lives Matter is a lie.
Yes, black lives don't matter to those who shout BLACK LIVES MATTER
they didn't shout BLACK LIVES MATTER when little girl was killed.
something else is matter for them and for evil rich capitalist Soros.

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28-08-2015, 10:01 PM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 08:47 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:27 PM)Alla Wrote:  Soros is evil capitalist. What would he do without capitalism? Socialists are hypocrites. They preach socialism while getting rich because of capitalism.
they preach income equality while live in big mansions and eat caviar with big spoons. hypocrites.

You are sadly, possibly dangerously, but hilariously delusional. Laughat

You must be not very bright because you have swallowed all the catch phrases of the conservative/libertarian ideologues but can't actually connect the dots nor see the picture.
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29-08-2015, 12:09 AM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 10:01 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:47 PM)Chas Wrote:  You are sadly, possibly dangerously, but hilariously delusional. Laughat

You must be not very bright because you have swallowed all the catch phrases of the conservative/libertarian ideologues but can't actually connect the dots nor see the picture.
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Brilliant response, you silly twit.

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29-08-2015, 12:49 AM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
(28-08-2015 09:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(28-08-2015 08:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You said black lives matter is a lie.
That implies black lives don't matter. Here let me show you what you said just a few minutes ago because your short term memory seems to be on the fritz.
Yes, black lives don't matter to those who shout BLACK LIVES MATTER
they didn't shout BLACK LIVES MATTER when little girl was killed.
something else is matter for them and for evil rich capitalist Soros.

What fuels these perceptions of yours? Do you think everyone that doesn't condone to your way of thought is some caricature who is of ulterior motives and far richer than they want to lead on?

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29-08-2015, 01:34 AM
RE: Who was out of line here, Trump or the Univision reporter
I can't even figure out what the argument is, here.

We know that black people are endlessly harassed and brutalized by police, so they tend to fight back instead of trusting the corrupt system, which makes the police fear and hate them even more, which makes them angrier and more likely to fight back. It is a self-reinforcing cycle.

Regardless of whether he had his hands up or not (the officer is always believed when the evidence is unclear or contradictory, and the evidence for what exactly he was doing between the time the cop got out of his cruiser and the time Brown died is murky at best, so it defers to the officer, as must be), the evidence is clear that Mike Brown could not have grabbed the gun as the officer claimed (can't fit through SUV window to gun on far side of cop, and "he went for my gun" is common after-the-fact excuse any time an officer kills someone), that the officer conducted and inappropriate stop (ordered kids out of a residential street, then grabbed Brown's arm through the car window after pulling alongside) for inappropriate reasons (he did not know about the store incident, prior), and he shot an unarmed person. To focus on whether or not the protesters are right in their catchy slogans is to miss the reason they are angry by a mile.

"Black Lives Matter" is a slogan that asks the police to treat black bodies like they treat white bodies. Simple as that. Giving examples of other ways in which black lives are fucked up in the USA is to be willfully deceitful about the issue.

I am not trying to be mean; that's just the way it is. The protesters have a point, whether or not the specific trigger incident is as it was originally reported. Without a giant pile of tinder, the spark could not have ignited this bonfire, so it's ridiculous to focus on whether the spark was correct, and is just a way of trying to rob the movement of legitimacy.

It is not the responsibility of the BLM movement to erupt in anger over every black life lost for any reason. Jamyla Bolden was killed in a drive-by shooting. Tragic, yes, but it has nothing to do with the BLM movement. To suggest it does is to not only miss what BLM is about, but is to suggest that blacks are just mad about anything bad that happens to black people, which is racist. They have specific grievances about their treatment for decades at the hands of law enforcement and national policymaking.

So stop already with the "black lives don't matter to the Black Lives Matter movement", because that is not what it is about, and that would be obvious if you weren't listening to the Fox News caricature of the movement, rather than opening your eyes/ears/heart, and listening to what the people are actually saying.

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