Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
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20-12-2013, 08:32 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:26 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  Since infinite regress and something from nothing are impossible, nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

According to Lawrence Krauss, something must come from nothing.

Why don't you get back to us after you read A Universe from Nothing.

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20-12-2013, 08:32 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
We just showed why Krauss is a moron.
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20-12-2013, 08:33 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:28 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  God always existed and brought the causality of nature into being.

Fail. If the principle of Causality didn't exist in Reality already, how did she "cause" anything ?

(20-12-2013 08:28 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  It doesn't matter how many cause and effects there are. The principle remains the same. Infinite regress is impossible.

But THAT's YOUR whole premise. "Trillions". NOW you change your mind, and y=suddenly the number is irrelevant ?
You stating something with no reference or proof is worthless, and meaningless.
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20-12-2013, 08:33 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
God can cause causality or bring it into being out of Himself.
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20-12-2013, 08:34 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
When was the number of causes ever the deciding factor? Rather with so many causes they always supersede the non-evidential something from nothing theory.
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20-12-2013, 08:35 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
So the proof that something can't come from nothing always trumps the something from nothing theory because there is always more pieces of evidence than the 0 pieces of evidence for your retarded theory.
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20-12-2013, 08:35 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:33 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  God can cause causality or bring it into being out of Himself.

That's meaningless.
You say say anything is true. You saying something doesn't make it so.
You're looking pretty desperate here. So you can't even try to explain Causality, except by Special Pleading THAT too ? (Did you EVER take Logic ?)

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20-12-2013, 08:36 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
Also, it's God's prerogative to create outside of time and space. You can't judge Him. We just happen to be in the sweet spot of it with the soon return of Jesus.
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20-12-2013, 08:37 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:34 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  When was the number of causes ever the deciding factor? Rather with so many causes they always supersede the non-evidential something from nothing theory.

YOU yourself used the "trillions" argument MANY times. Now suddenly it doesn't matter ? If the NUMBER didn't matter, why did you say that ? I get it. It's YOUR special "Reality" you need to talk about. Not Relaity.

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20-12-2013, 08:37 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
I am not saying anything to make it true but that's what you are doing.

I am taking the evidence of trillions of cause and effects and seeing where it leads me.

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