Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
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20-12-2013, 08:57 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:50 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  Atheists must hate themselves because they reject the love of God.

This is based on what evidence?

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20-12-2013, 08:57 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:56 PM)Crulax Wrote:  I am bringing the green bean casserole to the hell pot-luck dinner what is everyone else bringing!

I'll make up my sweet and sour meatballs.

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20-12-2013, 08:58 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:54 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  The IQ here must definitely be below 90.

Retard alert!

How charitable of you. Jebus made you act that way ?

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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20-12-2013, 08:59 PM (This post was last modified: 20-12-2013 09:06 PM by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:56 PM)Crulax Wrote:  I am bringing the green bean casserole to the hell pot-luck dinner what is everyone else bringing!

I'm bringing the CHEEBA CHEWS!!!

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20-12-2013, 09:01 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:56 PM)Crulax Wrote:  I am bringing the green bean casserole to the hell pot-luck dinner what is everyone else bringing!

noodles!!


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20-12-2013, 09:01 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:50 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  Atheists must hate themselves because they reject the love of God.

Not true! I love myself at least once a day!Wink

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20-12-2013, 09:01 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
I could make Adam's Apple pie.
I might need some donations though.

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20-12-2013, 09:03 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 08:42 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  I for one am grateful to God He created Hell for you to keep you away from me for eternity. Just like we have to lock up prisoners in jail for life.

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Um aren't YOU the one who came HERE, dickweed?


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20-12-2013, 09:04 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
I'm also at work on my cell so I'll grant that I'm grumpier than usual. Tongue

Quote:You're still not getting it. There is no evidence for vampires. How does that compare to the trillions of cause and effects in nature and no hard evidence of something from nothing? Therefore, the universe can't start up from nothing.

This is central point #2 that you make. That there is a relationship of cause and effect in nature so therefore we must have been a first cause.

Problem one: when we speak on a quantum scale, which is the applicable scale for talking about the very early universe, cause and effect break down. We only have probabilities and it is very hard for our minds to conceive of this. While on the scale we operate on we can have logical cause and effect. Not on a quantum scale. We simply use logical cause-and-effect because our brains can't handle that kind of probability.

Problem two: you assume a first cause, a beginning. We have no proof this is so. It might be that the multiverse time is cyclical, or that time itself is cyclical, or that time is simply an interaction of matter. We don't know. But it's really cool to speculate.

Btw, it wasn't your grammar but word choice/order that bothered me. I'm very particular about it.

I'd ask that you stop the hate, I like debate but bile is objectionable.
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20-12-2013, 09:06 PM
RE: Why Am I a Theist, not an Atheist, and Not Just Any Kind of Theist
(20-12-2013 07:38 PM)savedwheat Wrote:  Each of your questions are already answered in the opening post.

It looks to me like this thread has achieved all you intended it to. Why not hang out in a few other threads and leave this one to history. There's a bit too much going on in this on to really critically analyse or answer any claim, question or objection properly. Take a breath, and check out all the board has to offer.

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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