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13-12-2012, 10:18 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:09 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:03 AM)bemore Wrote:  Are you against children being brought up by a gay couple FZU?

If yes.... why?
Yes, of course. A child functions and develops best with a male and female personality in his/her life- to learn both sides of the socialising and emotional language- it's just nature. And giving birth to a baby, just to give him/her away to strangers is immoral, the baby will be incredibly distraught by this. Just being born, they want to rest with mother, they certainly don't want to be split up, never to see the biological mother again.

Rights of children come before all else, since they never asked to be born- it's up to us as adults to make sure they have the best experience as possible.
Bullshit. "it's just nature." Nothing is "just" in nature. Your generalization is absurd. Also, social animals raise other individuals young in nature too.

I mean, you shouldn't send kids to daycare or hire a babysitter? Grandparents should never watch their grandchildren. And if the parents die, it is better for the kid to be raised by no one than people other than its parents?

Where the hell do you get the information about a child needing a mother and father anyways? What happens if the mom is a tomboy or the dad is a little light in the loafers and there is no clear mother and father figure in the relationship? Why do traditional gender roles even matter? How can a gay couple not fill the traditional gender roles?

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13-12-2012, 10:20 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:17 AM)bemore Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:09 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  Yes, of course. A child functions and develops best with a male and female personality in his/her life- to learn both sides of the socialising and emotional language- it's just nature. And giving birth to a baby, just to give him/her away to strangers is immoral, the baby will be incredibly distraught by this. Just being born, they want to rest with mother, they certainly don't want to be split up, never to see the biological mother again.

Rights of children come before all else, since they never asked to be born- it's up to us as adults to make sure they have the best experience as possible.
Well you are entitled to your opinion, I cant comprehend it personally and I think you make a lot of assumptions.
It's not my opinion, it's got nothing to do with me. It's just fact. If you take away a baby from a mother he/she will cry that should tell you everything you need to know, the baby does not lie, it only cares about what is good for him/her. I am only standing up for what is noble and right, by siding with the powerless.
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13-12-2012, 10:23 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:20 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:17 AM)bemore Wrote:  Well you are entitled to your opinion, I cant comprehend it personally and I think you make a lot of assumptions.
It's not my opinion, it's got nothing to do with me. It's just fact. If you take away a baby from a mother he/she will cry that should tell you everything you need to know, the baby does not lie, it only cares about what is good for him/her. I am only standing up for what is noble and right, by siding with the powerless.
You obviously don't have kids.

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13-12-2012, 10:24 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:20 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:17 AM)bemore Wrote:  Well you are entitled to your opinion, I cant comprehend it personally and I think you make a lot of assumptions.
It's not my opinion, it's got nothing to do with me. It's just fact. If you take away a baby from a mother he/she will cry that should tell you everything you need to know, the baby does not lie, it only cares about what is good for him/her. I am only standing up for what is noble and right, by siding with the powerless.


No, it's not 'just fact'. A newborn will bond with any human, not just its biological mother.

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13-12-2012, 10:25 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:20 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:17 AM)bemore Wrote:  Well you are entitled to your opinion, I cant comprehend it personally and I think you make a lot of assumptions.
It's not my opinion, it's got nothing to do with me. It's just fact. If you take away a baby from a mother he/she will cry that should tell you everything you need to know, the baby does not lie, it only cares about what is good for him/her. I am only standing up for what is noble and right, by siding with the powerless.
I require basic scientific research that has been retested, and that is current, indicating that this is, in its entirety, a true statement. It seems to me like you operate on nothing but broad assumptions without any actual research involved.

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13-12-2012, 10:26 AM
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Kids also cry when:
Their diaper is full
They are hungry
They are bored
They get scared
They are cold
They are hot
They are sick
They don't like the way you are holding them
They want mom, not dad
They want dad, not mom
They want macaroni and cheese, not the carrots
They are tired
When it is dark
When they are in car seats and don't want to be
When you put socks on them
When you cover them up with a blanket
When you take away their toy because it is time for bed
When they are in trouble

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13-12-2012, 10:26 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:24 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:20 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  It's not my opinion, it's got nothing to do with me. It's just fact. If you take away a baby from a mother he/she will cry that should tell you everything you need to know, the baby does not lie, it only cares about what is good for him/her. I am only standing up for what is noble and right, by siding with the powerless.


No, it's not 'just fact'. A newborn will bond with any human, not just its biological mother.
To a limited degree, but ultimately it wants to go into the mother's arms as quickly as possible. Splitting up a baby from his/her mother permanently is unbelievably distressing when you can't even walk, in nature, when a baby is separated from parents, it is a life or death scenario.
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13-12-2012, 10:28 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:26 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:24 AM)Chas Wrote:  No, it's not 'just fact'. A newborn will bond with any human, not just its biological mother.
To a limited degree, but ultimately it wants to go into the mother's arms as quickly as possible. Splitting up a baby from his/her mother permanently is unbelievably distressing when you can't even walk, in nature, when a baby is separated from parents, it is a life or death scenario.
Which is why it being in the arms of another human is preferred. No one is leaving the proxy-by-mother baby on the street for a random gay couple to find.

Your argument is easily refuted by pets. Ever had a dog or a cat? I bet they damn well love you even though they are not biologically related to you.

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13-12-2012, 10:31 AM (This post was last modified: 13-12-2012 10:34 AM by FZUMedia.)
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:28 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(13-12-2012 10:26 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  To a limited degree, but ultimately it wants to go into the mother's arms as quickly as possible. Splitting up a baby from his/her mother permanently is unbelievably distressing when you can't even walk, in nature, when a baby is separated from parents, it is a life or death scenario.
Which is why it being in the arms of another human is preferred. No one is leaving the proxy-by-mother baby on the street for a random gay couple to find.

Your argument is easily refuted by pets. Ever had a dog or a cat? I bet they damn well love you even though they are not biologically related to you.
The baby does not understand that though, all they know is that there mother has gone, for a young child, this is incredibly scary. Since we are hard-wired to associate our mother with food source and much needed protection. Altering something so basic and pure to the child brings a lot of distress, since to the baby, a missing mother is a life or death situation.

The differences of thinking between another animal is so vast, it's another conversation for another time really.
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13-12-2012, 10:32 AM
RE: Why Gay Marriage Should be Illegal
(13-12-2012 10:20 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  It's not my opinion, it's got nothing to do with me. It's just fact.
I didn't know that stating that your opinion is actually a fact makes the necessity to provide evidence for your position null and void. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Drinking Beverage

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