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14-02-2014, 02:06 PM
RE: Why God is necessary.
Quote:Dude without God existence we cannot live in this society where powerful kill the poor. if there is not God it means there is no rule for powerful ppl. There is no rule for president. No rule of chief of army, No rule for Cheif judge, No rule for media channel owner. Come one this planet will become jungle law. If you are powerful then you can do anything you want to do.
Even if God exists this is the precisely the society we are living in. Is God gonna stop powerful from killing the poor? NO.
As for heaven and hell why did he put good people on this earth and let them suffer at the hands of diseases and bad people? Your God is an evil God.
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14-02-2014, 02:20 PM
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(14-02-2014 01:22 PM)khuram Wrote:  I have a strong and logical believe that God will judge every person and give reward according to the deeds. If someone do bad deeds will go to hell and if some one do good deeds will go to heaven.
I don't like the idea of "justice".

I want my government to take dangers out of society e.g. lock up people who want to kill other people.
Or discourage people from behaving dangerously e.g. the threat of prison sentence for killing other people.

I certainly don't think it is my government's place to sanctimoniously make moral judgements and to dish out punishment for punishment's sake. That seems to be an extremely oppressive dictatorship approach. I don't want a dictator and I don't want to be oppressed.

I personally get no gratification from having people get punishment for "moral" transgressions.

(14-02-2014 01:22 PM)khuram Wrote:  Well now it is my personal believe if anybody dont want to accept just do not accept. but i believe in it.
I will respect you and your beliefs if you reciprocate and respect me and my non beliefs. e.g. Don't use law to force your beliefs, moral standards on me. Don't get your government to enact "justice" onto me.
Surely if your god exists then I will get my comeuppance in the afterlife and that will be just and perfect. Hence no need for double jeopardy.
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14-02-2014, 02:33 PM
RE: Why God is necessary.
(14-02-2014 01:42 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Muttonhead. Someone move this outta the intro section so's we can insult this fool properly. Dodgy




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14-02-2014, 02:34 PM
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(14-02-2014 01:42 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Muttonhead. Someone move this outta the intro section so's we can insult this fool properly. Dodgy

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14-02-2014, 03:07 PM
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(14-02-2014 01:22 PM)khuram Wrote:  I have a list of religions on my screen including Jews, Christen, Islam, Atheism, Agnostic, Hinduism, Sikhism etc.
Troll harder.

Dreams/Hallucinations/delusions are not evidence
Wishful thinking is not evidence
Disproved statements&Illogical conclusions are not evidence
Logical fallacies&Unsubstantiated claims are not evidence
Vague prophecies is not evidence
Data that requires a certain belief is not evidence
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14-02-2014, 03:18 PM
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(14-02-2014 01:22 PM)khuram Wrote:  My duty is only to convey the message. Thats all

Your "duty" ? Give me a break, dont you think we've heard this shit before ?

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14-02-2014, 08:12 PM
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Really need to make a "shit and run pigeon" animated gif....

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14-02-2014, 08:16 PM
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(14-02-2014 01:22 PM)khuram Wrote:  Hello Guys,

Now days I am trying to search the true religion. I have a list of religions on my screen including Jews, Christen, Islam, Atheism, Agnostic, Hinduism, Sikhism etc.

The question is why God is necessary in our life. I am not a debater nor I want to convert any one toward religion. I am not here to fight nor for any discussion. I just write what I understand and if someone have a better understanding than share it.

Ok, Most of ppl ask same question again and again that why God is necessary? Some ppl says that God is not necessary. No hell No heaven. Well let me tell you why God is necessary.

1. Let suppose I am a Chief judge and my son raped your sister or mother and the case is in my custody. I will decide weather to punish the rapist or not. At that moment what you will expect from me?... You will expect that I should punish my son because he did something wrong with your sister or mother. But I cannot punish my Son. he is my beloved son. how I can punish him?. I have the power to free the rapist I am the chief judge. I dont care about any rule of this world. I set my own rules. Govt, Police, Army they cant even touch me. I hold the judiciary. Now tell me what will be your response. Will you say OK mr Cheif Judge you have the power and you can do what ever you want. or will you appeal for justice? Surely you will appeal for Justice. But I dont care about you why should i listen to you. Who you are a poor man. I am cheif judge. I have the power. Lol. at that moment you will think when a poor man do a crime a judge punish him but when a judge do a crime who will punish him?

Dude without God existence we cannot live in this society where powerful kill the poor. if there is not God it means there is no rule for powerful ppl. There is no rule for president. No rule of chief of army, No rule for Cheif judge, No rule for media channel owner. Come one this planet will become jungle law. If you are powerful then you can do anything you want to do.

Now see what God command us. God says even if your son commit any sin and you are the judge. Punish your son. if you will not do this I will put you in hell.

God says if you are in Govt do justice with ppl. If you will use your power wrong then I will punish you.

We need God and Heaven and hell to make this world peaceful. If you guys say no we dnot need God and Heaven and hell concept. Then let ppl do what they are doing. Who you are to stop them? If someone killing some one then let them do. If you have power then stop them and if you do not have power then let these ppl kill you also. Lol. Jungle law.

God says do not rob, Do not rape, Give charity, live with humanity, respect your parents, Help your neighbor, God says even if someone do bad with you forgive him. Do not take revenge. but if someone try to kill you just fight in self defense.

for example today if i claim that I am the messenger of God. Now tell me what problem do you have with my claim?. If you dont want to accept do not accept but you have no right to kill me. It is my life, My own throat, My own voice, my own soul, my own body and i am using my own things and calming something. what problem you have in it? if you dont want to listen to me just put fingers in your ears. but if you try to kill me then i have full right to fight with you in self defense.

Those who says Jesus will save us on the day of judgment or Muhammad will save us are the biggest liar. I know some ppl do not actually understand religion and they try to earn money from religion. Like priest (in Christianity) and Mulla (in Islam) but they are the biggest culprit. God will surely punish them all because they spread wrong religion.

I have a strong and logical believe that God will judge every person and give reward according to the deeds. If someone do bad deeds will go to hell and if some one do good deeds will go to heaven.

Well now it is my personal believe if anybody dont want to accept just do not accept. but i believe in it. what problem do you have if I believe in something. I just share it with you guys if you reject its upto you. My duty is only to convey the message. Thats all

So you think you get to make up a god because you NEED one to fulfill your NEEDS. It's called Utilitarianism. It's a slippery slope. It's also bullshit. Just because you NEED something, doesn't mean to get to make up a fairy tale to fill the need.
Sorry your world makes so little sense to you. Try getting an education.

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14-02-2014, 08:26 PM
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14-02-2014, 09:34 PM
RE: Why God is necessary.
(14-02-2014 01:22 PM)khuram Wrote:  1. Let suppose I am a Chief judge and my son raped your sister or mother and the case is in my custody. I will decide weather to punish the rapist or not. At that moment what you will expect from me?... You will expect that I should punish my son because he did something wrong with your sister or mother.

Given your mentions of heaven and hell, I'm assuming you're leaning toward Christianity or perhaps Islam. Did you know that the Bible doesn't actually prohibit rape (so long as the woman isn't betrothed)? How is God helping us here?


(14-02-2014 01:22 PM)khuram Wrote:  Now see what God command us. God says even if your son commit any sin and you are the judge. Punish your son. if you will not do this I will put you in hell.

God says if you are in Govt do justice with ppl. If you will use your power wrong then I will punish you.

We need God and Heaven and hell to make this world peaceful. If you guys say no we dnot need God and Heaven and hell concept. Then let ppl do what they are doing. Who you are to stop them? If someone killing some one then let them do. If you have power then stop them and if you do not have power then let these ppl kill you also. Lol. Jungle law.

Funny. If God's goal is to make the world peaceful, and it obviously isn't, how useful is your god? He seems to be failing quite miserably. Now, if you're looking for the best god to worship, go with Odin. He promised the end of all frost giants. Do you see any frost giants? I still see plenty of evil. One of these gods has delivered on his promises!
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