Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
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19-12-2013, 05:26 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 05:19 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  gotry ...this is an intellectual discussion...
You think this is an intellectual conversation?!?! That explains a lot about your level of intellect.

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19-12-2013, 05:29 AM (This post was last modified: 19-12-2013 09:48 AM by Raptor Jesus.)
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 05:21 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(19-12-2013 05:08 AM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  Well you are wrong, so answer the question. Plus yours is not the question. You made that up.

I doubt anyone chooses their orientation.

Okay...so...if they don't choose it, then do you believe that is how they are born?

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19-12-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 05:29 AM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  
(19-12-2013 05:21 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I doubt anyone chooses their orientation.

Okay...so...is they don't choose it, then do you believe that is how they are born?

I have been around quite a few newborns....none of them displayed any kind of sexual orientation.
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19-12-2013, 05:56 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 02:09 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  A better analogy for the Christian to use would be this: Heterosexuality is better than homosexuality in the same way walking bipedal is better than walking quadra-pedal.

Explain how bipedal walking is better than quadrupedal walking.
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19-12-2013, 06:00 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 05:56 AM)NoSuicide4Me Wrote:  Explain how bipedal walking is better than quadrupedal walking.

One of the girls in the video said she wished she could walk bi-pedal so she could go to the dance and perhaps find a husband.
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19-12-2013, 06:08 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 06:00 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(19-12-2013 05:56 AM)NoSuicide4Me Wrote:  Explain how bipedal walking is better than quadrupedal walking.

One of the girls in the video said she wished she could walk bi-pedal so she could go to the dance and perhaps find a husband.

Sorry, personal preference doesn't hold up as a good answer.

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19-12-2013, 06:16 AM (This post was last modified: 19-12-2013 08:47 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 04:55 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(19-12-2013 04:43 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Okay, so for the purpose of locomotion, bipedality is better with our current form (for movement across a horizontal surface without aid). For the purpose of procreation, heterosexuality is 'better', sure. How does this at all preclude the legal recognition of marriage between homosexual couples or equal rights and protection under the law? The original analogy is shit, and yours is no better. We don't disallow menopausal women or men with vasectomy's from getting married, so clearly procreation is not requirement of secular marriage as recognised by the state. But you know that, I know that; you're not actually that stupid, you're just being purposely obtuse.

Its not just reproduction. The human body is exquisitely adapted for penis/vagina sex. It is not exquisitely adapted for penis/anus sex.

And that means FUCK ALL about marriage equality for homosexuals because?

Last time I checked, the human body isn't 'exquisitely adapted' for marriage either fuckwit.

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19-12-2013, 06:33 AM (This post was last modified: 19-12-2013 06:43 AM by IndianAtheist.)
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 02:09 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  A better analogy for the Christian to use would be this: Heterosexuality is better than homosexuality in the same way walking bipedal is better than walking quadra-pedal. There are people in the world who walk on all fours not because they choose too.


You know that's actually a good argument.. FOR homosexuality and buttsex.. you see if something psychologically or genetically goes wrong our locomotion reverts back to quadra-pedal walking.. so just like that when our ancestors walked on four legs they used to have.... anal sex. instead of oral sex just like chimp so its NOT unnatural to have sexual urges to have anal sex.

[Image: chimp_eric.jpg] Accuse them of sodomy too XD HA HA HA oh wait.. you'd also have to accuse most of animal kingdom and your own ancestors TOO !

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19-12-2013, 06:55 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 02:09 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The analogy is this. Heterosexuality is better in the same way standing on your feet is better standing on your hands. It is really not that hard to understand what the Christian is saying.....and his analogy doesn't have anything to do with choice. That's just you adding things to his argument so you can knock it down.

A better analogy for the Christian to use would be this: Heterosexuality is better than homosexuality in the same way walking bipedal is better than walking quadra-pedal. There are people in the world who walk on all fours not because they choose too.




Men are designed to be homosexual. The penis is about the same height
as a men's butthole. On the other hand, the women's vagina is generally
lower because women are shorter on average. Conclusion, men are designed
for homosexual sex and not for heterosexual sex.
Unless, of course you do it doggy-style. But as you
have pointed out…. bipedal is better than quadrapedal!
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19-12-2013, 07:20 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 05:19 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(19-12-2013 05:10 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  
(19-12-2013 04:55 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Its not just reproduction. The human body is exquisitely adapted for penis/vagina sex. It is not exquisitely adapted for penis/anus sex.
You are showing your bias. Men have the prostate and women have the clitoris, which current research shows extends right around the anus. Just because you in your bigotry don't like the way some people engage with each other doesn't mean you in your bigotry get to decide what is superior or inferior in this area. People can and do have sex however the fuck they like and in whatever way works for them. Why? Because what matters is what works for the people involved, not what works for you. This isn't a fucking porno for you to cast your bigoted eyes over and score from 1 to 10. This is people in their private lives getting on in the way that works for them.

There is no case for state intrusion into the bedrooms or the lives of its citizens, and there is no basis for you in your bigotry to do the same. You're spouting the same argument white europeans were spouting during american slavery: That whites are inherently better adapted and superior to blacks, that god and nature have adapted each to his environment. Blacks are stronger and better suited to heavy work. Whites are smarter and more civilised and suited to being master over the other races. Penis in vagina sex is superior to other forms of sex, because it's the kind I engage in and I'm the one in the privileged position here so I'm obviously right. Seriously, do you have any sexual experience at all? Do your partners agree that penis in vagina sex is clearly superior, exquisitely adapted, and that nothing else is needed or wanted in the bedroom? Good god man.

Hanof, I could really care less what people do in the bedroom. But this is an intellectual discussion and it would be down right silly of me to think that nature in its infinite wisdom created all sexual orientations equal. There is no reason to believe that homosexuality and heterosexuality are equivalent......unless you think God created them that way.

However, there are plenty of reasons to think they are not equivalent.

What is driving this disingenuous witchhunt? This is a thread about (check the title) "Why homosexuality is wrong". Now that you are having to justify your bigoted position on the subject you try to switch it around to "why different sexual positions are not equivalent to each other". Well fuck that. How fucking dare you? How fucking dare you defend your bigotry by reframing the argument? Let's do the switch back and let me know if you can see your bigotry:

"Hafnof, I could really care less about the colour of people's skin. But this is an intellectual discussion and it would be downright silly of me to think that nature in its infinite wisdom created all races equal. There is no reason to believe that black and white are equivalent.....unless you think God created them that way.

However, there are plenty of reasons to think they are not equivalent."

Your actual argument contains precisely the same rigour, the same attention to detail, the same intellectual honesty, the same level of candid self-assessment, the same level of appreciation for the diversity of human culture society and genetic diversity, and yes sir the same bigotry as the reframing. The very same bigotry. You ignorant fucking bigot. Why don't you walk away from this topic until you have the perspective and decency to approach it as a human being? You lack the necessary knowledge and experience to exchange meaningful discourse on this subject and by god it's showing. Go do some womens' studies. Go and actually meet some gay people. Don't try to use "this is an intellectual argument" as a smokescreen for your bigotry and as a shield against others calling you out on it. You objectively are. You are. You are an uninformed bigot on this subject, and you could do with some education.




Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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