Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
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19-12-2013, 04:23 PM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
So by attributing it all to epigenetics, are you suggesting that it can be reversible? Your opinion would still support that it is not a choice, but also infers that it is beyond a persons control?

First time I heard this explanation so am I understanding this idea at all? And furthermore, why so flagrantly unaccepting if that is the case?

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19-12-2013, 09:21 PM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(18-12-2013 10:54 PM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  Earlier I heard a mush-brained Christian make the following analogy as to why gay marriage is wrong:

Quote:When I get up in the morning, I put my feet on the floor. I do not attempt to stand on my head, since that is not the designed purpose for heads. They are good for many things; standing on them is not one.

Some people can stand on their heads. Some may enjoy it. But by no stretch of the imagination is doing a head-stand on equal-footing with standing on your feet. Any attempt to say they are basically the same thing has to be treated as absurd.

As a “foot walker” it does not seem controversial to me that there would be anything unusual about a man wanting to use his feet to go somewhere.

I may someday be unable to use my feet to travel. I still can use my head well enough to know that I won’t get anywhere if I’m upside down.


Yeah, cause that's the equivalent. Just some random people deciding to walk on their heads for no apparent reason. In fact, the very absurdity of that analogy should shed light on how obvious it is that this is not simply a decision by otherwise straight people to just wake up one day and randomly decide to commit the rest of their lives to having sex with a person of the same gender, whom they are not even attracted to, just because, for no apparent reason that's what they are going to do... cause the hate "God" I guess, and want to fuck with "him" by doing something they were not created by "God" to do, like walking on their heads...

Fucking stupid moronic Christian...

If you are a Christian reading this, please, at least don't be or say things this dumb...please...


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...and you actually TALKED to a person that fucking stupid...?

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19-12-2013, 09:35 PM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 01:31 AM)Vosur Wrote:  I'll be blunt here: Heterosexual men use their dicks to fuck women in the ass as well, so that analogy doesn't work on any level. Drinking Beverage

OH, BUT WAIT!!! -- There's MORE!

Perfectly normal heterosexual men use all sorts of things to fuck perfectly normal heterosexual women in the ass with, including fingers, toes, tongues, toys, baseball bats and many other convenient household items.


AND -- Perfectly normal heterosexual WOMEN use all sorts of things to fuck perfectly normal heterosexual MEN in the ass with, including fingers, toes, tongues, toys, baseball bats and many other convenient household items.



So much about the conditioning that xtards and a lot of other people have about homosexuality has to do with anal sex between MALE same-sex partners. But so many of the people who have their panties all in a was about homosexuality have no qualms AT ALL about anal sex with opposite-sex partners or between FEMALE same-sex partners. But it's the same fucking thing.

Oh, and so many MEN who go all batshit about homosexuality and gay rights have NO PROBLEM AT ALL with watching and getting off on lesbian porn.

Like this fucking idiot here on this forum whose sig line bleats about comparing his homophobia with fucking ARACHNOphobia, and that he just wouldn't want a homosexual to show up in his bathtub.

My money says the stupid son of a bitch wouldn't have the slightest problem AT ALL if a pair of bisexual WOMEN showed up in his bath wanting to play.






....but then again, there is a whole huge group of bleating homophobes who are just trying to cover up their own attraction to members of their own sex -- Google "Haggard Effect".

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19-12-2013, 10:44 PM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 03:51 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The only sensible option is to blah blah blah...

You are a quibbling, equivocating dumbass.

IT IS PERFECTLY FUCKING CLEAR that the x-tard's argument is that homosexuality is "unnatural". End of fucking Red Herring.

And (S)he-it is dead wrong. As are you.

Go fuck yourself.

In the ASS, like gay men and perfectly normal heterosexual men and women do.

But YOU, YOU go fuck yourself IN THE ASS with a fucking CACTUS.

Wrapped in BARBED WIRE.

Smothered with HABANERO SAUCE.

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19-12-2013, 10:44 PM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
Many religions, specifically the popular monotheistic religions like Islam and Christianity, excessively condemn homosexuality. Unfortunately, because of this, these people who follow these religions become prejudice and treat homosexuals with discrimination. A few members of my family came out as gay, and this may have been a major reason as to why all of them left it. They still craved that spirituality though, so they settled for ''belief in a higher power'', A non personal God, a God that created the universe and left it basically.

I'm not exactly sure why religions condemn homosexuality, but it must be attributed to some close-minded person who wrote the books with their stone-age primitive mentality. One final thing, I was wondering if anybody here could please educate me on this; doesn't homosexuality not support Darwinism in the regards of species reproducing? Don't get me wrong, homosexuality is good for a various number of reasons, such as lessening of potential exacerbation of over-population, and if somebody has feelings toward someone, regardless of gender, they shouldn't have to omit feelings that are natural to them.

To make this more to the point, my 2 questions are this.

1) Is homosexuality natural? Species in general have predominantly more heterosexual instincts, so isn't homosexuality more unnatural? Don't get me wrong though, unnatural shouldn't be in a negative way, but isn't it out of the norm? Shouldn't our hormones naturally incline us to seek attraction to the opposite sex?

2) My above speculations as to how hatred towards homosexuals in religion have arisen still need to be verified. Why does religion in general see homosexuality as a bad thing? Why is it so shunned upon? Is there a specific answer to this question? If so, please educate me on this topic.

I'd like to conclude that I have nothing against homosexuality, I'd just like to be more educated on the topic and I found this thread to be an opportunity for some people to lead my thinking towards this subject to a more positively educated direction.

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20-12-2013, 03:34 AM (This post was last modified: 20-12-2013 03:48 AM by IndianAtheist.)
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 12:56 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Really you should accept the Christian's view that heterosexuality and homosexuality are not equivalent and then just ask the question, "so what?".
You really think we give a shit about how much of a fucking ass you are about people's sexual orientation ?

No i'm not going to "Accept" your bigotry.

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20-12-2013, 10:19 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(19-12-2013 04:55 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(19-12-2013 04:43 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Okay, so for the purpose of locomotion, bipedality is better with our current form (for movement across a horizontal surface without aid). For the purpose of procreation, heterosexuality is 'better', sure. How does this at all preclude the legal recognition of marriage between homosexual couples or equal rights and protection under the law? The original analogy is shit, and yours is no better. We don't disallow menopausal women or men with vasectomy's from getting married, so clearly procreation is not requirement of secular marriage as recognised by the state. But you know that, I know that; you're not actually that stupid, you're just being purposely obtuse.

Its not just reproduction. The human body is exquisitely adapted for penis/vagina sex. It is not exquisitely adapted for penis/anus sex.

Which you know why exactly?
What about the adaptation to masturbation?
What about the exquisite adaptation to oral sex? (No, not AFTER a sodomy!)
Now there's one annoying thing: the female human body is badly adapted to giving birth. It indeed is a painful process. If sex was exquisitely adapted for the sole purpose of reproduction, there wouldn't be any pain. Just the orgasm and be done with it. Now for some obscure reason, prostate stimulation through, say, a penis, may provoke an orgasm in some subjects. What is the purpose and design of having orgasms that way?
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20-12-2013, 10:31 AM
RE: Why Homosexuality is Wrong (a stupid theist's argument)
(20-12-2013 10:19 AM)GaëlK7 Wrote:  Now for some obscure reason, prostate stimulation through, say, a penis, may provoke an orgasm in some subjects. What is the purpose and design of having orgasms that way?

Well, clearly God foresaw the needs of the celibate Catholic priesthood, and so he threw them a bone so that they too could have awesome orgasms. Drinking Beverage

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