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22-05-2017, 05:16 AM
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(22-05-2017 04:37 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  It's human nature to fear that which is unknown. Maybe if I knew what the Creator was like, I wouldn't be so afraid of Him! Weeping

I would say it's human nature to be inquisitive and to try and understand exactly what something is and how it works. Many fear what they don't understand, but in my experience because they are narrow minded and don't want to expand on what they think they know.

In all of human history, we have never found, and dare say I, NEVER WILL find evidence of the lord almighty [or any other widely sold god], because they don't exist.

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22-05-2017, 06:52 AM
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I fear the fool who is SO fucking stupid, they can't even figure out how to use the quote function.

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22-05-2017, 08:01 AM
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(22-05-2017 06:52 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  We are on the NAWP, (the nut-a-week plan).
We get a discount for our nuts who drop in for the week.

Oh, that's what that is?

I thought it was a reference to a married person's sex life. Cool

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25-05-2017, 05:53 AM
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(22-05-2017 05:16 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  
(22-05-2017 04:37 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  It's human nature to fear that which is unknown. Maybe if I knew what the Creator was like, I wouldn't be so afraid of Him! Weeping

I would say it's human nature to be inquisitive and to try and understand exactly what something is and how it works. Many fear what they don't understand, but in my experience because they are narrow minded and don't want to expand on what they think they know.

In all of human history, we have never found, and dare say I, NEVER WILL find evidence of the lord almighty [or any other widely sold god], because they don't exist.

And then certainty is such a comforting drug: You have a crazy life, you pray, you believe God will handle it, you stop thinking and can sleep at night.

It's harder when you know things can go to shit even if you're careful or not. It can be a psychological minefield.

Imo the best antidote to that is science and intuition and an active lifestyle. When intuition snd science are a team we can use the subconscious defenses our brains employ for us while measuring against cause and effect of the known world. And physical activity helps the brain and body optimise emotions and cognition.
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06-06-2017, 02:09 AM
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Still here. Been having a rough few days with fear and anxiety; same old problems raising their ugly heads. Problems I thought I was getting over about a month ago.

I really am starting to think that the only way out of this perpetual anxiety cycle is to not believe, but I've realised it isn't as easy as saying "Ok I don't believe." And of course entertaining the idea of nonbelief makes me anxious.

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06-06-2017, 02:11 AM
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06-06-2017, 02:30 AM
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(06-06-2017 02:09 AM)SeaJay Wrote:  I've realised it isn't as easy as saying "Ok I don't believe."

It's all about education. More you read, less you know Tongue

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06-06-2017, 02:42 AM
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(06-06-2017 02:09 AM)SeaJay Wrote:  Hi all

Still here. Been having a rough few days with fear and anxiety; same old problems raising their ugly heads. Problems I thought I was getting over about a month ago.

I really am starting to think that the only way out of this perpetual anxiety cycle is to not believe, but I've realised it isn't as easy as saying "Ok I don't believe." And of course entertaining the idea of nonbelief makes me anxious.

With you believing for so long, it might not actually do you any harm to periodically repeat the line, out loud to yourself, "I don't believe" and just see how you feel about it. Once you get used to the phrase it might become easier for it to remain in your mind.

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06-06-2017, 04:09 AM
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(06-06-2017 02:09 AM)SeaJay Wrote:  Still here. Been having a rough few days with fear and anxiety; same old problems raising their ugly heads. Problems I thought I was getting over about a month ago.

It took me years to get over my religious fears. During that time I was on-again off-again mildly depressed. Just hold tight to what you know is true, and your habits of mind will catch up with you sooner or later.
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06-06-2017, 05:19 AM
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(06-06-2017 02:09 AM)SeaJay Wrote:  Hi all

Still here. Been having a rough few days with fear and anxiety; same old problems raising their ugly heads. Problems I thought I was getting over about a month ago.

I really am starting to think that the only way out of this perpetual anxiety cycle is to not believe, but I've realised it isn't as easy as saying "Ok I don't believe." And of course entertaining the idea of nonbelief makes me anxious.

I had similar feelings as I pulled away from Christianity, it did involve a process of about 20 years, so it wasn't an overnight thing. Part of that 20 year process was learning and getting out of the Christian bubble where I wasn't reading the bible or going to church listening to preachers.

Another important part was humor, I became a fan of South Park and Family Guy, those shows illustrated parts of my religious beliefs that were absurd and poked fun of those beliefs. I learned to laugh at religion, my own religion, and come to realize the absurdity of it all. It was a gradual process with a lot of laughing at my beliefs and realizing how preposterous they were.

Hopefully you can find some of those ridiculous and humorous things and every time you laugh at it, one of those threads of religious control will break.

My former friend was a fundamentalist, every time any subject came up that didn't give due respect to his religion he would get serious and angry, he would throw out dismissive epithets like "secularists" or "evolutionists" to describe his distaste for anything that didn't confirm his narrow world view.

When I finally decided to abandon faith, this behavior turned in my direction. I reflect how I was completely blind to this behavior when I was a Christian, I was absolutely disgusted by it when I rejected faith. He became just another cartoon-cutout fundamentalist that had no ability to think for himself. We were friends for a couple of years, but as soon as he decided I was a target for denigrating comments and passive-aggressive apologism, it was only a matter of time before I told him to get lost.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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