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11-08-2014, 01:28 PM
Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(11-08-2014 01:21 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(11-08-2014 12:36 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  I think it's Don Quixote syndrome, their pastors tell them about the horrible atheists and they gallop off to this or other forums to slay the imaginary giants.

Yup. Christianity is one of the most self-aggrandizing and arrogant religions there ever has been. Its no wonder the more uneducated of its members believe they have the magic bullet to atheism. Their too proud to think they could be wrong, and to stupid to know they are.
Though hbl is clearly a troll.

How do you define troll? Perhaps there are many definitions?

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11-08-2014, 01:47 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
Engaging in conversation with a willful, often blatant, intent to deceive or aggravate those around you.

Which this guy displays in spades.

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11-08-2014, 01:53 PM
Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(11-08-2014 01:47 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  Engaging in conversation with a willful, often blatant, intent to deceive or aggravate those around you.

Which this guy displays in spades.

Hmmm. I'm not convinced his intention is to aggravate. Maybe I'm too trusting.

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11-08-2014, 01:54 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(11-08-2014 01:16 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(11-08-2014 11:14 AM)Wicked Clown Wrote:  
I think it was rather clear that Sam was not trying to convert hbl. We don't suffer from a compulsion to convert every person we meet. We are not theists after all.
He does need to fuck off though. You don't incorporate poison you expunge it.
Okay but it seems like people really are drawn to him. I don't think I've seen a 101 page thread about why people should or should not be Atheist. And I'd not be surprised if it doesn't last another 100 pages.

I couldn't start a 100 page conversation if you offered me Obama's Deficit! Big Grin
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11-08-2014, 01:58 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
This is nuthin.
We've barely gotten started. Weeping
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...e-God-term

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11-08-2014, 03:05 PM (This post was last modified: 11-08-2014 04:16 PM by goodwithoutgod.)
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
HBL,

another gift for you...

1) An un-evidenced, unverifiable God possesses certain presupposed attributes as found in religious propaganda, folklore and literature.
2) It is impossible for any presupposed un-evidenced entity to attain any verifiable attributes without the intervention of a creative entity.
3) Overwhelming evidence indicates that humans create and compose propaganda, folklore and literature having to do with all gods.
4) Therefore a creative entity superior to all presupposed gods exists, and that entity is man.

DISCLAIMER: This is not mine, and it may have been something a member of TTA wrote once on a post, and I liked it so much, I kept it. So I am recycling the brilliant, vivid truth in this statement, and I am sorry I can not give the original author credit as I don't know who penned it Smile But the below is all mine!

Now let me introduce you to the TRUE GOD, the great and mighty Purple Unicorn, giver of life and sparkly flatulence!

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What is the background of the purple unicorn you ask? well sure, allow me to expound; here is my purple unicorn hypothesis...for those who have read this before, my apologies Laugh out load

As I strive to understand how people can believe in astonishing things with little credible evidence, I have come up with a scenario...I call it the church of the purple unicorn...bare with me..

Lets say i approach you, we have been friends/co-workers for a long while, and I am visibly excited. I tell you how I was invited to a meeting, a group called CPU, and they showed me some exciting things, and I wanted to invite you to the next meeting. (no it isnt AMWAY ) So I convince you to come, and you meet a nice group of uber friendly people who give you hearty handshakes and beaming smiles. Once all the pleasantries die down, and some food has been demolished, they start telling you about how an archaeologist had discovered an ancient text in a cave, and it described a purple unicorn that flew across the sky, and farted rainbow sprinkles, bestowing wishes for all those who truly believed. he did this until the non believers found him, and killed him, but as the believers stood weeping around his body, it started to glow, and *gasp* rise into the air, and with a whinny and a toss of his tail, he rose into the sky and as he disappeared he said, I will return, and bring you to paradise. These 12 believers were astonished and told everyone the story, they gained followers here and there....people are always drawn to smiles and excitement, and will pretty much believe anything, or pretend to, so they can be part of the group.

Now years later, this secret group has decided to spread the good word to the world, and you can get in on the ground floor! With much fanfare and drama, they whip aside a vibrant purple silk curtain and show you a golden telescope, they reverently beckon you to look into it..."look, and you can see him for yourself"...you look incredulously into it, but alas, dont see anything but the sky. You tell them you dont see anything, they give each other knowing looks and say "ahhh he only shows himself to those who truly believe, think hard about your belief, suspend your doubt, look again" then you get a gathering of folk behind you, slapping you on the back and nodding their heads....you look through the glass again...and even though you dont see anything, you start to think, there must be something to this...maybe I am just not ready yet....but you turn and gasp aloud "oh my unicorn! I see him, and he is glorious!". they all circle you and much merriment happens. They give you a copy of the BOOK OF UNICORN to cherish and study. Be strong, the non believers will question your faith, they are the enemy, and strive to steer you off the course of true enlightenment.

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Now this was totally pulled out of my ( i ) obviously, but there is a valid point I think. Is this how people get sucked into these belief systems? psychologically I mean.. I understand the desire for fellowship, to belong to a group, to be part of something bigger than you....your thoughts? Why do people profess to believe such astonishing things.....with zero proof besides a book and some philosophy of those who were also members of the group? I have always wondered this, I have never felt the need to be in a group, a huge need for belief in something in order to be able to face our basic human fear of death..and the unknown...death will come, and then I will be in final rest as my body rots and my consciousness fails with my last breath...I dont need to clutch a belief of golden roads and condos on the beach in paradise, or 72 virgins if I die as a martyr for Muhammad, or any other reward for believing something that seems so astonishingly hard to believe. The fact that the book is loosely tied to actual historical timelines is just an attempt to make it sound believable.

"Belief is so often the death of reason" - Qyburn, Game of Thrones

"The Christian community continues to exist because the conclusions of the critical study of the Bible are largely withheld from them." -Hans Conzelmann (1915-1989)
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11-08-2014, 04:14 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(11-08-2014 01:53 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  
(11-08-2014 01:47 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  Engaging in conversation with a willful, often blatant, intent to deceive or aggravate those around you.

Which this guy displays in spades.

Hmmm. I'm not convinced his intention is to aggravate. Maybe I'm too trusting.

You don't think him deliberately miss quoting and rearranging peoples posts to say the exact opposite is not an intention to aggravate?
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11-08-2014, 04:16 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(11-08-2014 04:14 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(11-08-2014 01:53 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  Hmmm. I'm not convinced his intention is to aggravate. Maybe I'm too trusting.

You don't think him accidentally leaving stuff out and rearranging peoples posts to say better what they really meant is not an intention to show God's love?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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11-08-2014, 04:20 PM
Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(11-08-2014 04:14 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(11-08-2014 01:53 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  Hmmm. I'm not convinced his intention is to aggravate. Maybe I'm too trusting.

You don't think him deliberately miss quoting and rearranging peoples posts to say the exact opposite is not an intention to aggravate?

Now wait a minute: what happened to "Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to ineptitude"? Why does this advice get conveniently discarded any time someone wishes to accuse someone of being a troll?

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11-08-2014, 04:37 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(11-08-2014 04:20 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  
(11-08-2014 04:14 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  You don't think him deliberately miss quoting and rearranging peoples posts to say the exact opposite is not an intention to aggravate?

Now wait a minute: what happened to "Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to ineptitude"? Why does this advice get conveniently discarded any time someone wishes to accuse someone of being a troll?

Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

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