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08-08-2014, 06:10 PM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2014 06:14 PM by hbl.)
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 06:09 PM)kunoxian drive Wrote:  I think they have been.....

Draw the distinction subjectivity thinking something and showing it in reality.

You would need to show that the standard met for historicity of eyewitness testimony is not met in the Scriptures.

For example, can you find a higher standard than the Bible presents?
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08-08-2014, 06:12 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 06:07 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 06:02 PM)Chas Wrote:  It has been definitively shown that there is absolutely no eyewitness testimony.

The eyewitness testimony is already given in the NT's 27 books extremely well corroborated. You could not show otherwise.

Your silly book is not in its totality authoritative of history. I could list off dozens of books containing events that are attested to by characters of the books as having happened.
This is not a legitimate line of argument on your part.
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08-08-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
sure....... first prove your claim that there is an uncased cause.

1. Striding and swaggering rootlessness without end. The precious flow of life.
2. one should fear sweet a blood stained flower.
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08-08-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 06:06 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 05:57 PM)Chas Wrote:  You have not demonstrated that there was ever 'nothing'. Nor have you adequately defined 'nothing'.

Why would I need to show there is 'nothing' when I have shown there was never 'nothing'?

The opening post already defines 'nothing' as non-existence.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...om-nothing

Not for your benefit, for anybody with questions reading this thread. We don't have any good explanations for the creation of the universe, but we do have some interesting ideas, and we do know quite a bit about what happened in the first few moments, hours, years and millennia of the creation of the universe.

With all of that being said, I implore my fellow TTA forum members to stop feeding this troll. Stop responding. Please let this thread die.
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08-08-2014, 06:14 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 06:13 PM)kunoxian drive Wrote:  sure....... first prove your claim that there is an uncased cause.

That was already done in the opening post. You would need to challenge that.

I'll wait patiently here.
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08-08-2014, 06:19 PM
Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 06:13 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 06:06 PM)hbl Wrote:  Why would I need to show there is 'nothing' when I have shown there was never 'nothing'?

The opening post already defines 'nothing' as non-existence.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...om-nothing

Not for your benefit, for anybody with questions reading this thread. We don't have any good explanations for the creation of the universe, but we do have some interesting ideas, and we do know quite a bit about what happened in the first few moments, hours, years and millennia of the creation of the universe.

With all of that being said, I implore my fellow TTA forum members to stop feeding this troll. Stop responding. Please let this thread die.

Nobody is compelling you to continue reading this. Are they?

Or are they?!

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08-08-2014, 06:21 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 05:40 PM)hbl Wrote:  Why is your delusion drivel?

Because you still can't find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles in various group settings.

Jesus spoke on Hell more than anyone, and obviously since you can't be with God's elect, Hell was created for you, not unlike how we have to lock up people in prison for life so they can't harm others. So is your calling.

Jesus never spoke on hell. You have no clue who spoke on hell, and how much they spoke about what. You are a liar. You blow shit out your ass, and think people will buy it. No one does.

There is no need to find an explanation for an unsubstantiated CLAIM.

Jesus was a Jew. Jews did not believe in hell. They believed in Sheol, until the concept collided with :
a. the Greek Hades, and that was conflated with
b. the fire of Gehenna that burned constantly outside Jerusalem.
All cultural historians and scholars know this. The fact you don't demonstrates you are a complete fraud.

There is no evidence for hell. In order to "get there" one would, in a timeless environment, have to "transition to it". That is meaningless, in the absence of space-time.

So go ply your ignorant bullshit elsewhere.

Still waiting for you to substantiate you CLAIMS (ie your lies) about scholars.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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08-08-2014, 06:21 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
You can't split non-existence into two things. It doesn't exist.
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08-08-2014, 06:22 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 06:21 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Jesus never spoke on hell.

Jesus spoke on Hell more than anyone. Just read John chapter 3.

Don't shut your mind down.
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08-08-2014, 06:23 PM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(08-08-2014 06:13 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  Please let this thread die.

What? And spoil all the fun? Dodgy


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