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09-08-2014, 01:05 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
At work.

But.... what's the point of this Jesus guy doing anything if they aren't, y'know, God.

Any prophet will do the saving job, right?
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09-08-2014, 01:06 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 01:04 AM)Astreja Wrote:  refusing to permit Pharaoh's later desire

Pharaoh always had his free will, he could have always repented even as God was hardening his heart.

Misreading the Bible does not form a valid argument.
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09-08-2014, 01:07 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 01:05 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  y'know, God.

Jesus is God the Son not God the Father nor God the Spirit.

Before the foundations of the world the 3 Persons of the Godhead agreed the 2nd Person would enter creation and atone for sins and the 3rd Person would indwell the saved.
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09-08-2014, 01:08 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
Later alligators.
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09-08-2014, 01:09 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 01:06 AM)hbl Wrote:  Pharaoh always had his free will, he could have always repented even as God was hardening his heart.

How? How could a human override a god's mind control? For that matter, why did your alleged god harden Pharaoh's heart -- Just to set up that synchronized-drowning scene in The Ten Commandments?
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09-08-2014, 01:11 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 01:07 AM)hbl Wrote:  
(09-08-2014 01:05 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  y'know, God.

Jesus is God the Son not God the Father nor God the Spirit.

Before the foundations of the world the 3 Persons of the Godhead agreed the 2nd Person would enter creation and atone for sins and the 3rd Person would indwell the saved.

So....God...but NOT God..... ?

So... Jesus is like the cake, then?

Sorry... saying JC is not God (But, really is God) seems quite the mental gymnastics there.

Or, are you perhaps hinting at limits to God?

Thought, please, add to my understanding of where youre mind is coming from.

Much cheers to all.
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09-08-2014, 01:19 AM (This post was last modified: 09-08-2014 01:25 AM by Miss Suzanne.)
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 12:38 AM)hbl Wrote:  
(09-08-2014 12:36 AM)Miss Suzanne Wrote:  Y'know, many Christians do things that Christians would say Jesus wouldn't do.

Not at all. There are things simply Christians will never be found doing such as the Inquisition.

Of course there are some sins we may still be struggling with but none of these big ones of rape, murder, etc. The Holy Spirit restrains us.

Child, you were just saying that Jesus wouldn't do something like that was the whole damn reason the Crusades weren't done by Christians was because Jesus wouldn't murder. I was giving you an example about how it's irrelevant whether or not Jesus would do that. It's irrelevant because, like every type of person roaming this whole wide world, Christians are human and will do as they do and often believe they are in the right with their god even if it's not popular doctrine. Besides, if real Christians don't murder, rape, ect, why is there a massive amount of prisoners that identify as Christian with only a few identifying as Atheist? Surely, according to your logic, if they were Christian, they wouldn't have murdered or whatever the hell they did to wind up in jail because the Holy Spirit would restrain them, right?

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-ri...its-prison

(a year old but still) http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...-imagined/

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09-08-2014, 01:22 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 01:03 AM)hbl Wrote:  
(09-08-2014 01:01 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  substitutionary atonemnet

Your sin's judgment is Hell. Thank God Jesus takes the sin upon Himself to save whosoever believeth in Him so as not to perish but receive everlasting life.

God is wonderfully merciful.

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09-08-2014, 01:25 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 12:49 AM)hbl Wrote:  
(09-08-2014 12:47 AM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  Demonstrate a spirit exists.

The spirit has God-consciousness. I am aware and sense God's existence in my intuition and communion and conscience of my spirit.

Pre-Adamic men did not have this ability or if they did, it was a limited kind.

I didn't ask you what you thought it was, you are far to stupid to offer a cogent explanation, I asked you to DEMONSTRATE that it exists. A nonsensical explanation is not a demonstration.

Now: Demonstrate that a spirit exists.
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09-08-2014, 01:26 AM
RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
(09-08-2014 12:51 AM)hbl Wrote:  When God breathed in the breath of life directly creating man's spirit 4004 BC, it made contact with the body and man became a living soul with both a spirit and a body. We are tripartite beings.

We observe the functions of our spirit, but the spirit is unseeable. It is like the wind as the Holy Spirit moves too and fro, and indwells the spirit of believers.

If nothing else the spirit is realized in realizing you will never cease to exist. You can never cease to exist because the image of God in which you are made will never end. That's how God made you. Hence, Heaven or Hell.

Demonstrate that this is true. Citation needed.
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