Why Religion Will Die (as it should)
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21-07-2015, 12:52 PM
Why Religion Will Die (as it should)
Back in the bad old days when the world's major religions started - there were two groups of people --- those in charge - of government and religion --- and those under the thumb of the first group.

In large part the masses were illiterate and ONLY got their information from the people in charge -- the people who could read and write.... After all - they CAN read and write - so they must be smarter than us dumbasses, right?????
Nobody questioned much - because for the most part - the masses didn't realize that questioning was an option.

Now - with the masses being literate -- it's obviously much harder to control them with religion. After all - if somebody decides they don't agree with the guy in charge - they just run off and start their own church.

So - as more and more groups splinter off -- and become their own little sect/cult/religion --- more and more people are going to realize that all those opposing groups really don't have any advantage over the rest --- and they'll come to the conclusion that it's all pretty meaningless....

Keep in mind - that the religious types have been around for thousands of years -- and are in no hurry to give up the power they hold. It's only been a couple of generations of widespread literacy.

Give it time. Eventually reason will win out over superstition and religious indoctrination.

At least a guy can hope.

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21-07-2015, 01:09 PM
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I think you are overestimating the intelligence and literacy of the masses (in particular the literacy, which seems to be on the decline).

But, like you said, we can always hope.
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21-07-2015, 01:12 PM
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The internet is the greatest equalizer since education.

Literacy is on the far rise. We still like to scoff and shake our heads at people you see with such poor reading comprehension skills but even more people at that level is higher than the past. It's progress damnit! Frusty don't take away our slowly building progress.

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21-07-2015, 01:28 PM
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As long as there is poverty religion will exist I would say; those who have noting more will look to salvation from favorite invisible friend.

The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

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21-07-2015, 01:32 PM
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As long as there are rocks the muslims will have the tools to keep the dolts in line.

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21-07-2015, 01:51 PM
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(21-07-2015 01:28 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  As long as there is poverty religion will exist I would say; those who have noting more will look to salvation from favorite invisible friend.

Very, very true.....there is a direct correlation between poverty and religious belief. I have long been a fan of the theory that religion was created by the masters for the oppressed to keep them in check.....brilliant really....I know you are cold, sick, dirty, and hungry but you keep the faith, and the wonders of the universe will be yours.....upon your death...meanwhile, dont think bad thoughts like, overtake and kill the masters, because god is watching you, and you wont go to heaven.....

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21-07-2015, 02:40 PM
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(21-07-2015 01:51 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  
(21-07-2015 01:28 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  As long as there is poverty religion will exist I would say; those who have noting more will look to salvation from favorite invisible friend.

Very, very true.....there is a direct correlation between poverty and religious belief. I have long been a fan of the theory that religion was created by the masters for the oppressed to keep them in check.....brilliant really....I know you are cold, sick, dirty, and hungry but you keep the faith, and the wonders of the universe will be yours.....upon your death...meanwhile, dont think bad thoughts like, overtake and kill the masters, because god is watching you, and you wont go to heaven.....

When it came to religion I agree with Marx, it's indeed opiate of the masses, opiate which make their suffering (somewhat) bearable.

And religiosity being actively encouraged to keep poor in check? It would not surprise me.

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21-07-2015, 03:19 PM
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(21-07-2015 12:52 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Back in the bad old days when the world's major religions started - there were two groups of people --- those in charge - of government and religion --- and those under the thumb of the first group.

In large part the masses were illiterate and ONLY got their information from the people in charge -- the people who could read and write.... After all - they CAN read and write - so they must be smarter than us dumbasses, right?????
Nobody questioned much - because for the most part - the masses didn't realize that questioning was an option.

Now - with the masses being literate -- it's obviously much harder to control them with religion. After all - if somebody decides they don't agree with the guy in charge - they just run off and start their own church.

So - as more and more groups splinter off -- and become their own little sect/cult/religion --- more and more people are going to realize that all those opposing groups really don't have any advantage over the rest --- and they'll come to the conclusion that it's all pretty meaningless....

Keep in mind - that the religious types have been around for thousands of years -- and are in no hurry to give up the power they hold. It's only been a couple of generations of widespread literacy.

Give it time. Eventually reason will win out over superstition and religious indoctrination.

At least a guy can hope.

... a guy can hope. Then I go home and hear Trump is leading the Repubtards.
So much for hope. Big Grin

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21-07-2015, 03:52 PM
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The Cardinals had a meeting with god in the Vatican smoke hole. He told them that the bench made Italian slipper wearing Head Nazi In Charge probably wasn't speaking to the proper demographic. So they emerged with a new "revelation" that the illiterate underclasses were the market of the future.

South America is the new (old) Promised Land---hence the drooling Reebok shod Socialist in the fish hat.

As long as there is poverty and illiteracy there will be religion. Sadly.

(This is a skeptic's reason to eye Net Neutrality with great suspicion. If the Net becomes the State's playground to regulate, filter and prioritize (what is still for the moment) the free flow of Information---the false-- the retarded --AND-- the factual--- (Capital "I") Information will not be the readily available gift we currently take for granted. Be careful what you wish for...)
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21-07-2015, 03:53 PM
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I have feeling that most users on this forum haven't yet realized their mortality.
Also jews were literate for hundreds if not thousands years and Judaism is doing well.
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