Why did God make so many idiots?
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18-02-2013, 04:13 PM (This post was last modified: 18-02-2013 04:20 PM by fstratzero.)
RE: Why did God make so many idiots?
(18-02-2013 01:53 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  
Quote:Maybe a better question would be "Why did god make so many pedophiles?"

Or

"Why did god invent a system of punishment and reward that has the huge gaping hole of anyone that commits any act of unspeakable horror upon the world can forgo any punishment and reap the same rewards as the nice guy down the street who always did good by other people and both reap the rewards while the nice guy who stopped believing in fairy tales gets tortured for all eternity?"

I mean, come on!

And how hard have you looked for stories of conformed pedophiles who became christian?
You'll need to ask my Calvinist brothers that one... I believe paedophiles have the power of choice. Although it's a loaded question... since "good" does not equal "without sin/perfect" and sin in the Bible is missing the mark of perfection. Ghandi? Good person! Idolater? Yes. Me and you? Good people? Perfect. No. No one can do anything wrong in Heaven or it's a dystopia. "Good people" go to Hell daily.
...And I've been sent/seen/read over a hundred testimonies from prisons but no paedophiles...
Did you overlook the "all sin is equal before the eyes of god" part?

Essentially, genocide, rape, murder, child molestation is equal to saying god damn it, or stealing a penny, according to your mentally gutted faith.

A forgiven child abuser.
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18-02-2013, 04:16 PM
RE: Why did God make so many idiots?




He really is.

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18-02-2013, 04:37 PM
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18-02-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: Why did God make so many idiots?
(18-02-2013 10:25 AM)Zat Wrote:  
(11-02-2013 01:46 PM)Zat Wrote:  We all have seen them.

They are all over.

In government, in military, in business, in the citizenry at large and even on forums.
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Actually, I think it was personal.

He wanted to aggravate me.

Punish me for not believing in him. Big Grin
He Zat.
If you needed a major life saving operation would you chose the brilliant highly recognized Christian surgeon or the lesser, but still quite good, atheist.

It seems odd, simply to justify atheism/evolution to label all religious people idiots.

Does the fact that they hold unusual beliefs make them defective in all aspects of human endeavour?
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18-02-2013, 05:02 PM (This post was last modified: 18-02-2013 05:07 PM by Zat.)
RE: Why did God make so many idiots?
I was referring to all kinds of idiots -- not only to religious ones.

Not all religious people are idiots, just as not all atheists are geniuses.

An idiot is an idiot, regardless whether he believes in god or not. Big Grin
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18-02-2013, 05:19 PM
RE: Why did God make so many idiots?
(18-02-2013 05:02 PM)Zat Wrote:  I was referring to all kinds of idiots -- not only to religious ones.

Not all religious people are idiots, just as not all atheists are geniuses.

An idiot is an idiot, regardless whether he believes in god or not. Big Grin
Oh so you weren't referring to 'God's making' as your title claims at all.



I imagine a non moral ethical force that just happened is blameless.



You could have simply asked Why was evolution so harsh? Consider
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18-02-2013, 05:20 PM
RE: Why did God make so many idiots?
(18-02-2013 05:02 PM)Zat Wrote:  I was referring to all kinds of idiots -- not only to religious ones.

Not all religious people are idiots, just as not all atheists are geniuses.

An idiot is an idiot, regardless whether he believes in god or not. Big Grin
Oh so you weren't referring to 'God's making' as your title claims at all.



I imagine a non moral ethical force that just happened is blameless.



You could have simply asked Why was evolution so harsh? Consider
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18-02-2013, 05:25 PM (This post was last modified: 18-02-2013 05:32 PM by Zat.)
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It was meant as a joke thread, in revenge for some aggravation I had to suffer at the time.

I always curse god, even though I never believed in him.

I blame him for everything: the weather, nuclear waste, global warming, and yes -- idiots.

Call it 'poetic license' Big Grin
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18-02-2013, 05:33 PM
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(18-02-2013 05:25 PM)Zat Wrote:  ...
It was meant as a joke thread, in revenge against some aggravation I had to suffer at the time.

I always curse god, even though I never believed in him.

I blame him for everything: the weather, nuclear waste, global warming, and yes -- idiots.

Call it 'poetic license' Big Grin
That's O'K.
I find on some forums a bit of sarcasm or poetic license, is often viewed as an attack, injustice,insult, or worse.....................depends on your "credibility", in whatever sense, quite often. Wink
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18-02-2013, 05:46 PM (This post was last modified: 18-02-2013 06:02 PM by Zat.)
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Sarcasm is still better than calling people names.

Less rude and more enlightening (if done well).

Instead of saying to someone: "why are you such an idiot?" you can start a thread with the title: "Why did god make so many idiots?"

You didn't hurt anyone's feelings, but you still have dissipated your frustration because you know whom you are thinking of. Wink

In any case, it started a lively discussion.
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