Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
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18-11-2016, 05:42 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
Why didn't he convert even one person who could read and write to take down what is claimed to be the most important message in human history?

Or convert someone who could afford to hire a scribe?

Or even interest someone who could afford to hire a scribe but didn't buy into what he was preaching?

Well, because the Son of God wasn't the son of any god. He was a tool used by certain later authors to put some authority to their writing.
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18-11-2016, 06:01 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
Here's a little known factoid: he did. He presented it at a board meeting of the apostles who with:
What's up with this hippie-dippy bullshit, J? Peace, love, and small furry animals? Where's the margin in that
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18-11-2016, 06:02 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
I think if Jesus has written the New Testament, the entire thing would just be "OMFG, you guys, the world is ending like pretty soon and stuff!!!! Set all of your things on fire, especially your clothes; you won't need them where we're going."

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18-11-2016, 06:07 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
(18-11-2016 03:58 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  
(18-11-2016 03:39 AM)Vosur Wrote:  How does that follow? There are many people who can read, but not write and vice versa.

If you can read it stands to reason you should be able to write, barring physical or mental disabilities.

Jesus and the apostles would have spoken Aramaic not Hebrew. The scrolls were written in Hebrew which, was read for ceremonial purposes but not used commonly.

Being able to read does not immediately imply writing, especially given a lack of writing materials. It is also possible to copy text without understanding what it means so you can write but not read.

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18-11-2016, 06:20 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
(18-11-2016 06:07 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(18-11-2016 03:58 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  If you can read it stands to reason you should be able to write, barring physical or mental disabilities.

Jesus and the apostles would have spoken Aramaic not Hebrew. The scrolls were written in Hebrew which, was read for ceremonial purposes but not used commonly.

Being able to read does not immediately imply writing, especially given a lack of writing materials. It is also possible to copy text without understanding what it means so you can write but not read.
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18-11-2016, 06:44 AM (This post was last modified: 18-11-2016 07:58 AM by TheInquisition.)
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
(18-11-2016 12:38 AM)Celestial_Wonder Wrote:  The Jesus in the bible could read, which means he could write. So. Why didn't he just write the New Testament? Apart from my beliefs that Jesus is the combined identity of more than one individual (primarily being John the Baptist and Simon Bar Giora). If we were to just for a moment postulate that there was a man called Jesus. Who could read and write. Why didn't he just write the New Testament? Shouldn't he know better the will of god if HE WAS GOD HIMSELF?!

The writings in the gospels were examples of a theology that had a good amount of time to develop. The entire atonement concept was developed well after Jesus died by Paul.

Here's a conspiratorial take, is it possible that Jesus might have written something, but it was so unremarkable and so non-Christian, that the Vatican or some other early Christian sect destroyed his writings? It was simply too embarrassing to early Christians to have their messiah contradict their teachings.

Here's yet another take- Jesus was simply a standard Jew preaching Judaism, there are certainly scriptural references to him stating that not one word of the Mosaic law should be changed. He mentions he came to fulfill the law, but he never clarifies this and Christianity erupted into major schisms between two schools of thought, is it faith or works that is necessary for salvation?

Why write about standard Mosaic law? No reason to...

This has never been resolved as the two major Christian sects of Catholic/Protestant exist 2000 years later. Facepalm

Of course I think this scenario is most likely- Jesus was a nobody, his teachings, his life, was not notable. He died like a number of other messiah claimants- brutally at the hands of the Romans. There was nothing remarkable about him, so of course he wouldn't have written anything.

A legend was built around a syncretic messiah concept that was an amalgam of messiah claimants of that time period. There was no individual that embodied and espoused early Christian beliefs, there were only syncretic legends that would later be edited, rejected and paired together in a narrative at a much later date by councils of men that we would later call the New Testament.

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18-11-2016, 06:51 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
And I forgot to note that while Jesus and his followers spoke Aramaic and Jesus may have been able to read Hebrew, there is one other issue.

The oldest, best copies of the gospels are not written in Aramaic or Hebrew. They were written in Ancient Greek. And they were not written by barely literate ex-fishermen. They were written by educated, articulate scholars.

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18-11-2016, 07:13 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
Jesus (if he existed) thought the end-times were coming in his lifetime.
He never intended to start a new religion. He was a Jew.
Every section in the New Testament was addressed to a specific (much later) community. Why would anyone write things for communities that didn't exist yet ?
Ummm.... duh.
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18-11-2016, 07:24 AM
Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
Clearly Moses is the better figure

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18-11-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: Why didn't Jesus write the New Testament?
I think he was having too much fun walking on water to be bothered with mundane tasks like writing boring bible verses.

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