Why do americans score so low on Accepting evolution as a fact
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16-09-2014, 04:01 AM
RE: Why do americans score so low on Accepting evolution as a fact
(15-09-2014 03:07 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(15-09-2014 02:14 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Because america is the fucking stupid kid of the countries.

It's also because America doesn't have much regard for highly intelligent people. We tend to elect people who, even if they are educated, don't throw their knowledge around too much. Politicians need to seem like a regular guy, or gal who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, not by getting A's in college. The people we admire are not scientists but celebrities or sports stars and their IQ is the least important thing we care about.

The other thing, and it's related to my first paragraph, is that we don't pay teachers very much. And teachers now have an added burden. They are there not only to teach but to fix every social problem that comes down the pike because we don't have the social safety net available that other countries have set up. My husband is a teacher with many years of training and education behind him. He graduated from USC in Los Angeles with a Masters and keeps taking classes to upgrade his knowledge. If he had gone into any other field he would have made far more money and had much less stress and frustration.

There is a history of teachers in the USA being underpaid females who were spinsters and couldn't find any other way to make a living and this idiot attitude has trickled down throughout several generations.

My father was also a teacher and in his later years traveled to Europe. When someone from another country discovered that he was a teacher they treated him with such respect. He had never experienced this before, he was quite amazed. So it's no wonder that Americans don't know about evolution we have such a sad attitude towards educated people from the get go. It drives me nuts.

Rant over.

Makes me think we should take the smart people of america and push them some where nice.

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16-09-2014, 10:05 AM
RE: Why do americans score so low on Accepting evolution as a fact
(15-09-2014 03:07 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(15-09-2014 02:14 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Because america is the fucking stupid kid of the countries.

It's also because America doesn't have much regard for highly intelligent people. We tend to elect people who, even if they are educated, don't throw their knowledge around too much. Politicians need to seem like a regular guy, or gal who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, not by getting A's in college. The people we admire are not scientists but celebrities or sports stars and their IQ is the least important thing we care about.

The other thing, and it's related to my first paragraph, is that we don't pay teachers very much. And teachers now have an added burden. They are there not only to teach but to fix every social problem that comes down the pike because we don't have the social safety net available that other countries have set up. My husband is a teacher with many years of training and education behind him. He graduated from USC in Los Angeles with a Masters and keeps taking classes to upgrade his knowledge. If he had gone into any other field he would have made far more money and had much less stress and frustration.

There is a history of teachers in the USA being underpaid females who were spinsters and couldn't find any other way to make a living and this idiot attitude has trickled down throughout several generations.

My father was also a teacher and in his later years traveled to Europe. When someone from another country discovered that he was a teacher they treated him with such respect. He had never experienced this before, he was quite amazed. So it's no wonder that Americans don't know about evolution we have such a sad attitude towards educated people from the get go. It drives me nuts.

Rant over.

Are you saying that if evolution were taught more often in American schools, more Americans would believe it? Are you saying it isn't taught enough in biology class and etc. prior to secondary education?

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16-09-2014, 02:57 PM
RE: Why do americans score so low on Accepting evolution as a fact
(16-09-2014 10:05 AM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  
(15-09-2014 03:07 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  It's also because America doesn't have much regard for highly intelligent people. We tend to elect people who, even if they are educated, don't throw their knowledge around too much. Politicians need to seem like a regular guy, or gal who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, not by getting A's in college. The people we admire are not scientists but celebrities or sports stars and their IQ is the least important thing we care about.

The other thing, and it's related to my first paragraph, is that we don't pay teachers very much. And teachers now have an added burden. They are there not only to teach but to fix every social problem that comes down the pike because we don't have the social safety net available that other countries have set up. My husband is a teacher with many years of training and education behind him. He graduated from USC in Los Angeles with a Masters and keeps taking classes to upgrade his knowledge. If he had gone into any other field he would have made far more money and had much less stress and frustration.

There is a history of teachers in the USA being underpaid females who were spinsters and couldn't find any other way to make a living and this idiot attitude has trickled down throughout several generations.

My father was also a teacher and in his later years traveled to Europe. When someone from another country discovered that he was a teacher they treated him with such respect. He had never experienced this before, he was quite amazed. So it's no wonder that Americans don't know about evolution we have such a sad attitude towards educated people from the get go. It drives me nuts.

Rant over.

Are you saying that if evolution were taught more often in American schools, more Americans would believe it? Are you saying it isn't taught enough in biology class and etc. prior to secondary education?

Probably that america could not know true if it what were true were to happen before them.

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