Why does no one see that the accuracy of any Holy book is a mathmatical impossibility
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28-03-2013, 03:26 PM
Apples and oranges, Please Jesus.
PleaseJesus - while I agree to some extent, what Jesus said wasn't a traumatic event. And te books you transcribed were not the story of someone else's memory of someone else's memory of someone else's memory and so on and so on for 100 years or more. While people TODAY live to be a 100 years, they were lucky if they made it to 50.

Have you ever interviewed the great great great great great grandchild of what a Minute Man SAID (and not from written letters or documentation) about a the revolutionary war? Remember - nothing was written down for more than 100 years after the events. And that is just Jesus. What about the Old Testament which was 1,000s of years? Was Noah really 950 years old? Come on...that's lunacy if you believe that is an accurate rendition of these men.

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28-03-2013, 06:27 PM
RE: inaccuracy of bible, people still believe it, why?
(28-03-2013 01:46 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  I've also published and edited over a dozen fiction and non-fiction books.

Please share the titles. Curious minds would like to read.

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28-03-2013, 07:16 PM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2013 12:24 AM by Doctor X.)
RE: inaccuracy of bible, people still believe it, why?
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29-03-2013, 03:10 AM
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The only way to have any kind of magical prediction that is considered to be accurate by minds who have not sharpened their reason. Is to keep the prediction vague, contradictory, and never add a date.

An example would be an empty statement like, "one day a great nation will rise to power, only to be annihilated by it's own mistakes"

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29-03-2013, 07:50 AM
RE: Why does no one see that the accuracy
Quote:PleaseJesus - while I agree to some extent, what Jesus said wasn't a traumatic event. And te books you transcribed were not the story of someone else's memory of someone else's memory of someone else's memory and so on and so on for 100 years or more. While people TODAY live to be a 100 years, they were lucky if they made it to 50.

Have you ever interviewed the great great great great great grandchild of what a Minute Man SAID (and not from written letters or documentation) about a the revolutionary war? Remember - nothing was written down for more than 100 years after the events. And that is just Jesus. What about the Old Testament which was 1,000s of years? Was Noah really 950 years old? Come on...that's lunacy if you believe that is an accurate rendition of these men.
Cathy, you would be entirely correct. But what do the most liberal NT scholars say about the dates for the NT?

The earliest works which came to be part of the New Testament are the letters of the Apostle Paul.

The earliest of the books of the New Testament was First Thessalonians, an epistle of Paul, written probably in 51, or possibly Galatians in 49 according to one of two theories of its writing. Of the pseudepigraphical epistles, scholars tend to place them somewhere between 70 and 150, with Second Peter usually being the latest.[citation needed]

In the 1830s German scholars of the Tübingen school tried to date the books as late as the 3rd century, but the discovery of some New Testament manuscripts and fragments from the 2nd and 3rd centuries, one of which dates as early as 125 (Papyrus 52), disproves a 3rd century date of composition for any book now in the New Testament. Additionally, a letter to the church at Corinth in the name of Clement of Rome in 95 quotes from 10 of the 27 books of the New Testament, and a letter to the church at Philippi in the name of Polycarp in 120 quotes from 16 books. Therefore, some of the books of the New Testament were at least in a first-draft stage, though there is negligible evidence in these quotes or among biblical manuscripts for the existence of different early drafts. Other books were probably not completed until later, assuming they must have been quoted by Clement or Polycarp.

Most contemporary scholars regard Mark as a source used by Luke (see Markan Priority).[64] If it is true that Mark was written around the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem, around 70,[65] they theorize that Luke would not have been written before 70. Some who take this view believe that Luke's prediction of the destruction of the temple could not be a result of Jesus predicting the future but with the benefit of hindsight regarding specific details. They believe that the discussion in Luke 21:5-30 is specific enough (more specific than Mark's or Matthew's) that a date after 70 seems likely.[11][66] These scholars have suggested dates for Luke from 75 to 100. Support for a later date comes from a number of reasons. Differences of chronology, "style", and theology suggest that the author of Luke-Acts was not familiar with Paul's distinctive theology but instead was writing a decade or more after his death, by which point significant harmonization between different traditions within Early Christianity had occurred.[67] Furthermore, Luke-Acts has views on Jesus' divine nature, the end times, and salvation that are similar to the those found in Pastoral epistles, which are often seen as pseudonymous and of a later date than the undisputed Pauline Epistles.[68]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testame...omposition
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29-03-2013, 07:53 AM
RE: Why does no one see that the accuracy
Quote:The only way to have any kind of magical prediction that is considered to be accurate by minds who have not sharpened their reason. Is to keep the prediction vague, contradictory, and never add a date.

An example would be an empty statement like, "one day a great nation will rise to power, only to be annihilated by it's own mistakes"
True, if you are a Nostradamus fan and etc. We're talking here more like (PARAPHRASED before everyone jumps down my throat):

"The Jewish people will be trouble/goad to the leadership in every empire they are scattered to" [fulfilled]

"After many years, Israel will again become a Jewish nation, only secular and irreligious" [fulfilled]

"[Russia] will remain in the hands of the people descended from Rus" [fulfilled]

"The new Israel will be terraformed utterly and the desert will bloom" [fulfilled]

"The Jewish Messiah will be depised, rejected, die, rise and be worshipped by diverse people groups worldwide" [fulfilled]

Etc, etc.
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